Talk:Gongsun Hong

Attributions
Thanks to Trilotat for reforming the reference format. Thanks to bigturtle for Confucius: Man and Myth source.[ First paragraph of "background" is obtained from Emperor Jing of Han, which I might eventually work on sourcing.FourLights (talk) 15:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Current work
I am dividiing the "speech" section to make additional contrast with Dongzhong Shu, who, while generally considered as making philosophical contribution, is contrasted with Gongsun Hong, with the latter as potentially contributing more to their initial entry into office.FourLights (talk) 09:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

workspace

 * Creel 1949. p239. Jailer/Swine herder. Speech
 * Creel 1949. p240-241. Evaluations. Creel quotation, Sima Qian/Dong Zhongshu quotes
 * Creel 1949. p241. 2nd lede. Promotion, Marquis

(Duplicate)
 * Creel 1960. p239. Jailer/Swine herder. Speech
 * Creel 1960. p240-241. Evaluations. Creel quotation, Sima Qian/Dong Zhongshu quotes
 * Creel 1960. p241. 2nd lede. Promotion, Marquis

Search engine: kung-sun hung, gonsun hong "kung-sun hung", google/google books, 06/22/17 "gongsun hong", google/google books (incomplete) Gale Literary Sources (academic onefile) 5/4 articles (one article), Magazines(3) 7/6/17 academic search elite (0) 7/6/17

Reviewed sources: Ideology of Power Dong Zhongshu, a ‘Confucian’ Heritage and the Chunqiu Fanlu Way, Learning, and Politics

-Encyclopedia The Encyclopedia of Confucianism: 2-volume Set RoutledgeCurzon Encyclopedia of Confucianism

-Sima Qian Watson, Burton D. (1958). Records of the Historian The Grand Scribe's Records: The memoirs of Han China (pt. 2)

-Footnote China: A Cultural and Historical Dictionary Washing Silk (poetry reference) A Dictionary of the Chinese Language Divination, Mythology and Monarchy in Han China

'''Reviewing https://books.google.com/books?id=ovkZC-SG26sC China's Gentry From Chronicle to Canon

Incomplete usage (unavailable) The Grand Scribe's Records: Volume X: The Memoirs of Han China, Part 3 Liu An's Claim to Moral Authority. 22-23,56 74+ Witchcraft and the Rise of the First Confucian Empire Science in Traditional China

Recommend change citation method
I'd like to suggest that shortened footnotes, using the template, might improve this article. It would reduce the length of the reference section by combining duplicate references, use of and a notes section. See an example at NBR 224 and 420 Classes (13:32, 1 August 2011). I'm happy to help.--Trilotat (talk) 16:33, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I took the liberty of making this change. The repeated and bulleted references made this article hard to read. I hope you don't object. If you revert, that's fine. Trilotat (talk) 03:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you.FourLights (talk) 17:21, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

problematic reference
The reference, "Don J. Wyatt. China Review International. 9.2 (Fall 2002): p564. From General OneFile. Griet Vankeerberghen. The Huainanzi and Liu An's Claim to Moral Authority" is strangely formatted. The Don Wyatt part appears to be missing a title. The part after, "Griet Vankeerberghen" has already been used. Trilotat (talk) 22:47, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * . Trilotat (talk) 18:49, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Recommend alphabetical references
if you add new references, recommend you add them alphabetically. Trilotat (talk) 17:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll organize it alphabetically.FourLights (talk) 17:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ Trilotat (talk) 08:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)