Talk:Gonzaga University/Archive 1

Discrimination claims
The claims of discrimination against homosexuals are uncited, and thus, questionable.

Agreed! Patris Magnus 01:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Observation
this site has been hacked by someone

I am not sure if its 26 or 24 consecutive games (or 20 something else) against other WCC teams, if someone could confirm or correct that, it would be helpful--Gusiman 03:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Didn't Tom Foley attend Gonzaga Preparatory School not Gonzaga University?

Question about article
I think this whole article is ridiculous and false. It says that Gonzaga is ranked 4th in the west for Master's programs. Well, the citation is Gonzaga's own website! Gonzaga is a great basketball school, but if you look at the GPA and admittance criterion, it is no top-tier university.

It says that Gonzaga's law school is top in the Northwest. It's 170th in the country! It is tier 3 or 4 at best, and very few students pass the bar.

This is the first time I was disappointed in Wikipedia.

Adam Morrison is not a graduate of Gonzaga, Dan Dickau now plays for the Trailblazers, there are almost 900 employees now, and as someone mentioned the law school is only 3rd or 4th tier.

I am disappointed in you, please sign your comments next time. SpokaneWilly 07:06, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Ah you are right, it is ridiculous and false. Gonzaga University is actually ranked 3rd in the west for universities WITH master programs.  And the reported law school ranking was way off base, it's actually tied for 100 in the country.  Both of these can be verified and cited using U.S. News and World Report's website.  So what's the deal, why are you so hasty to rake on Gonzaga? After all, attending students do donate a notoriously large amount of time toward community rehabilitation projects... There's more to a college than rankings and admission criteria, I guarantee that college graduates improve markedly from their high school admission credentials.  Norab 17:12, 10 June 2008  —Preceding

Bulldog
When I graduated in '02 the actual dog's name was Q. Spike is the name of the costume that is worn during games and other functions. Which are we talking about in this article? Patris Magnus 13:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

"Campus Politics" section
After reviewing the "Campus Politics" section, I strongly question the objectivity of this particular portion of the article. Aside from the statistics quoted from Facebook (which is not a political polling site, rather an on-line personality forum), none of the information in this section is cited - period. Additionally, there are a number of "political" topics regularly debated on campus, with sexual orientation being just one of those reguarly addressed by the administration and students in a public forum. This section should either be significantly cleaned up and expanded or deleted all-together. Thedjb 05:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. No citations or even hope of citation. I removed it. --Wo o ty Woot? contribs 01:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Merging "Gonzaga Bulletin"
During a recent AfD debate, there was a rough consensus that the article about the Gonzaga Bulletin be merged into this article. It would be greatly helpful if someone with knowledge about both subjects could perform this merge. Thanks. —Larry V (talk &#124; contribs) 23:31, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Merged by Wooty on Feb. 13, 2007. It's hardly even a stub and needs expansion. I deleted the allegedly "famous past editors-in-chief" bit as it's totally irrelevant since neither were notable people.Thedjb 19:07, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

More/Better Pictures
Gonzaga has a nice campus and has some landmarks on it such as the Admin building and the Church etc..take some pictures people
 * I tried to get one of the church, but it wouldn't all fit in the frame. :/ I'll see if I can't get a shot of the admin building near the roundabout. -Wooty Woot? contribs 03:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestions - maybe you should just do it yourself rather than taking the time to write about it? If you're not in Spokane or can't take the photos yourself, maybe just don't worry about it? Also, please sign your posts. Thedjb 19:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, next time someones in Italy, take some pictures of that campus too.. - anon

Statistics
This section is a mess. I'll clean it up if I can. Items that aren't in curriculum shouldn't be mentioned in Statistics for the first time.--Longman391 19:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the section is a "mess." While it may need some clean up, it presents a basic set of statistics regarding enrollment and the type of programs offered. Thedjb 22:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Law school
Either the law school should get its own article or should be its own section in this article. This is consistent with other law schools in the U.S.

I am happy to make these changes if nobody else is interested, but would love an edit or two from alumni. Thanks. --Longman391 00:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

This page has been created. Discussion is encouraged. Gonzaga University School of Law --Longman391 01:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Controversy
Someone, with the IP address from Gonzaga, removed the post in the "controversy" section regarding an anti-homosexuality chant preformed at a Men's Basketball Game. An MSNBC article was cited? why was it removed? should it be put back up? here is the wording:Gonzaga's largest student group, The Kennel Club, made national headlines for yelling "Brokeback Mountain" at a basketball game on February 6, 2006. The chant was directed toward a player the Kennel Club thought was homosexual. 63.224.223.240 18:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for Wikifying the word homosexual in the event some of us were unclear as to its meaning. I too think the section should be removed. While this event put Gonzaga in the news, a tidbit article on MSNBC's news ticker is hardly notable when looking at the 120 year history of the university. Wikipedia is not a news site or blog and the content of its articles shouldn't be treated as such. My vote is keep the info out.Thedjb 01:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. The event brought more than a tidbit on MSNBC's news ticker, it made some newspapers and quite a bit of press coverage iirc. -Wooty [Woot?] [Spam! Spam! Wonderful spam!] 11:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

POV
I am also tagging this article with: because of statements such as that about the "dominance" of the cross country team. If the team really is dominant, one may show this by listing, with proper citations, the team accomplishments. That will imply dominance and refute the pov dispute. Thanks--DerRichter (talk) 23:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I meant the ROTC challenge thing, not the cross country team. My bad.--DerRichter (talk) 23:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:GonzagaBulldogs.GIF
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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A good history section could be developed with these links
It would be nice if this article had a history section. I think a real nice one could be developed using the following sources, the Gonzaga website and HistoryLink (a Washington state online encylopedia):


 * http://www.gonzaga.edu/Academics/Libraries/Foley-Library/Departments/Special-Collections/exhibitions/GonzagaHistory.asp


 * http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&file_id=8097

I especially recommend the lengthy HistoryLink article, HistoryLink is a great reference -used it a lot doing the Spokane history section. I may try to do the history section someday when I have enough time and in the right mood. Anon134 (talk) 05:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, this article desperately needs a history section. It's entirely too promotional in nature and someone associated with the institution has clearly had a heavy hand in editing this article. ElKevbo (talk) 23:21, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

External links modified
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Recent edits
, can you explain why you are disputing that Gonzaga is Roman Catholic? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * , my explanation was that on three key signature pages where one would expect an identity statement of a Catholic nature (home || about/what-sets-us-apart/ || about/at-a-glance) there is none. There is no indication from Gonzaga's website that it is Roman Catholic.


 * Also, according to Catholic higher education a "Catholic university" is a university that is "privately run by the Catholic Church". By definition in ecclesiastical law, a Catholic university is "under control of the competent ecclesiastical authority or of a public ecclesiastical juridical person, or one which in a written document is acknowledged as Catholic by the ecclesiastical authority" as stated in (Catholic higher education). But there is no indication that Gonzaga has those real ties. Jevoussaluemarie (talk) 17:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The Jesuit Order is an ecclesiastical order, and it controls Gonzaga. Did you look at the mission statement page? Or the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities? We would be most interested in third party, mainstream references, such as US News. Or the US Department of Ed, which lists Gonzaga as a theological school, not merely a school where a lot of Catholics are enrolled. This is a widely known and obvious fact. We don't normally have to cite the fact that the sky is blue in articles, unless there is a reason to make a big deal out of it. I've never heard of this fact being in serious dispute. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:56, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Those pages that you linked to, which are not the primary pages of Gonzaga's site, do not express that it is "Roman Catholic." In its mission statement, Gonzaga states it has a "Catholic, Jesuit, and humanistic heritage and identity". But there is no indication of this Catholic identity anywhere else. This page makes its "Catholic" identity equivalent to its humanistic identity. Why not call it a "humanistic university"?


 * Although Gonzaga University is affiliated with the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities, affiliations with an accrediting agency do not constitute an identity with it, let alone with the Catholic Church. The US Department of Ed no longer lists Gonzaga University as a Theological School . The department's "current action" states, "Loss of Accreditation or Preaccreditation: Voluntary Withdrawal", as of 01/30/2008. Also, Roman Catholic Canon Law states that any Catholic University must have "at least a chair of theology" (Canon §811), but Gonzaga has no such chair in Theology. So it is not--according to Canon Law--a Catholic University. Jevoussaluemarie (talk) 20:00, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The university is a Jesuit institution which makes it Catholic. ElKevbo (talk) 20:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

IP to username
I have edited this article heavily in the past as an IP. For many reasons, I have decided to register for a username and will only be using this username in the future. Thanks. RumbleChan86 (talk) 12:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)