Talk:Gonzalo Lira

A very large percentage of this article seems to be with the intent of savaging the reputation of the Gonzalo Lira
Why are there so many reputation savaging claims within such a short biography?125.254.38.254 (talk) 13:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC)


 * You're going to have to be specific. Can you point to a claim that is "reputation savaging" that is not cited to a WP:RELIABLE SOURCE?--Ermenrich (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ermenrich I believe @125.254.38.254 is likely referring to the section which tries to suggest that Lira's YouTube content was "misogynistic" and that it "appealed to incels", and that he promoted the idea for men to "not date women older than 30" or whatever.
 * The actual fact is -his entire channel was solely meant since the start to be fatherly advice for his son, who was a newborn baby when he started his videos, meanwhile he was already an old man. He's said this fact many times. He never intended nor imagined that his channel would blow up like it did. His video content and the things he said in his videos were created under the fact, as he stated, "by the time my son is an adult and needs that fatherly advice that only a father can give on very adult topics, I will either be dead, or senile."
 * I believe that in that context, none of his content should be viewed as "misogynistic", every father has every right to desire to make sure their children are safe, taken care of, not used or abused by anyone, and are taught the wisdom they themselves wished they had before making the mistakes they deem as mistakes.
 * I think now that he's dead, the least this Wikipedia page could do is not slander his name based off of a misunderstanding of what his content actually was intended for.
 * I'm sorry I'm not able to off-hand cite the videos where he had mentioned this fact, his original channel and all of it's content was taken down. But I'm sure he's mentioned it enough that some of the videos in the archive surely contain his testimony to the fact.
 * Oh, also, Lira himself had no care for incels, and he stated that many times. He used the word so much I thought it was a term he made up. Never in my life would I have thought the term would eventually be used in description of his audience. 2601:646:8F83:3220:FC58:542E:6010:60F1 (talk) 08:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I notice a lack of any WP:reliable source in that long reply, whereas the "disparaging things" in the article are in fact cited to reliable sources.--Ermenrich (talk) 12:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

day of death is wrong
according to gonzalos funeral service video he died on january 11th 2024 youtube v=7M2kvwqFmVA?t=55 2A02:8070:9A86:3160:D1D7:370C:3B40:85E6 (talk) 13:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)