Talk:Goodyear Blimp

replaced
Correct me if I am wrong but I beleive the blimp that crashed has been replaced Funnyfarmofdoom 14:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup
Cleaned up the page and removed the cleanup tag. Aren't I nice? Even on a page that has nothing to do with me sucking up to the government of Liechtenstein! Wilybadger 21:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

FAA N-Numbers
I think the N-numbers of the Goodyear blimps are notable. They're all VERY short. N1A and N2A and N3A are all Goodyear Blimps (although I don't know which one is which). N4A is also a blimp, but it isn't owned by Goodyear. --Mdwyer 00:08, 6 February 2007 (UTC) Actually, it turns out that N4A was a Goodyear blimp, since it was one of the ones I could find an accident report on. --Mdwyer 04:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It's useful info, e.g. if one of them crashes in your back yard and you wonder which one it was. Lots of folks recognize LZ-129 as the Hindenburg, for example. Wahkeenah 03:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh. I was always able to tell that one by all the people standing around yelling, "Oh, the humanity!" --Mdwyer 04:53, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Presumably NCC-1701 is a continuation of the N-numbers into the 23rd century. You'd think that by then they would have run out of N-numbers and would be into the P's and Q's. Wahkeenah 05:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Tail numbers: the article says: "The GZ-20 class was introduced in 1969, with America (N10A) and Columbia (N3A) being the first two. The Europa (N2A) followed in 1972". However the photo cleary indicates that the America was N3A and Columbia the N4A. Something is not right here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.88.75.152 (talk) 12:39, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

"Look! The Goodyear Blimp!"
Perhaps a mention of this horrible cliche is deserving? Jachra 04:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I definitely think that a "pop culture" section should be added since the Goodyear blimp is such a well-known cultural icon. (ie. Scarface, and numerous other movies and music) smcallister 10:37, 02 July 2007 (UTC)

Was The Pilgrim a blimp?
The first line mentions The Pilgrim as Goodyear's first blimp. But checkout the official Goodyear site. The Pilgrim had a rigid frame. Further down the page it suggests that the Pilgrim would have had an inner gas bag, independent of the outer skin. That would mean that, technically, it was not a blimp. Even if the page has got it wrong about inner gasbags, would the use of a rigid internal frame, but inflated outer skin, mean that the airship is classified as rigid or non-rigid? Does anybody know the answers? And what about the other Goodyear "blimps"? -- Steelpillow 11:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Pilgrim absolutely was a blimp. The outer envelope was the helium container. There was an inner air-filled ballonet, but all blimps have those. Pilgrim had the car attached to a 21 foot long magnesium girder internal to the envelope. This girder was only 20% of the ship's length, and no-one with any knowledge at all would, or did, claim that it was enough to make it a semi-rigid. All following Goodyear blimps discarded the girder entirely. Fnj2 (talk) 16:16, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

What's happening to Florida?
Err... is there some kind of feud between Opa-Locka and Pompano Beach? One anonymous user, from IP 216.106.178.161, keeps putting the Florida blimp in Opa-Locka, such as here:.

A different anonymous user, from IP 66.240.24.39, wants to see it listed in Pompano Beach, such as here: 

Seems clear to me that the Florida base moved from Watson Island to Opa-Locka and then to Pompano Beach, but if there was a different sequence, please tell us.

And 216.106.178.161 has also removed some info on previous crashed blimps that seemed kinda useful to me:

Can I suggest you both give the rest of us a bit more info on what you're trying to do? If you think some of this info is in the wrong section (which I can believe is the case) please move it elsewhere in the article. If you think it's wrong or not appropriate, delete or correct it, but put a comment on the talk page (here).

Also, I'm sure people would be a lot keener to let your edits stand if you register for an account and log in when you make your edits. As things are, I'm tempted to revert a couple of these changes myself. Thanks. Rupert Clayton 23:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I am the anonymous user that wrote the paragraph about Passengers that talks of the move from land-limited Watson Island to Opa-Locka, because they were switching to the larger GZ-20 class. I took out Pompano, where the base is located at now, because it didn't figure into what I was explaining. Goodyear moved the blimp from Watson Isalnd to Opa-Locka in 1979 thus ending the public rides it offered at Watson. That's what it was all about. Not that it resided at Pompano but that Goodyear didn't have to honor the City of Miami lease where it had to offer limited public rides as part of the deal. Opa-Locka was a temporary base until they built the hangar at Pompano where they moved to in 1980. By the way I have expanded tis article by adding Passengers, Names, Classes & Night Signs. Been an airship enthusiast since age 3 watching Mayflower N1A at its Watson Island base.--216.106.178.161 23:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)George Almeyda

And here's more info: Watson Island 1926-1978, Opa-Locka 1979, Pompano Beach 1980-present--216.106.178.161 23:17, 15 November 2007 (UTC)George Almeyda

Brazil Blimp
Just found out Goodyear has an an airship in Brazil called Ventura, so I have added it on to the Names section. It's not a GZ-20, believe it's built by Lightship Group like all the other foreign GY blimps. Although this one seems larger than those. Anyone have more info on Ventura? Apparently it's been operating since 2004.

Crashes
In regard to the following section:

"It is commonly know among SMART pilots and Ham Radio Operators in South Florida, that Pilot Thomas was NOT to blame and he was made the "scapegoat" of both the NTSB and Goodyear. When Pilot Thomas saw questionable weather approaching, he did radio the Blimp Base asking for weather information and updates. He was advised "all clear" and his trust in those on the ground at the Base was misplaced and he was made to pay for this with his career. In this crash, Pilot Thomas, put all his skills to use making sure no one was injured and that the least amount of damage was done to private and public property. Pilot Thomas is a profession and should be fully re-accredited.[4]"

Regardless of the truth or error in this statement, it is not encyclopedic in nature. Statements like "his trust was misplaced", "SMART pilots", etc., are not presented in the spirit of Wikipedia.

76.113.141.134 (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

HOW MANY blimps?
The section "Fleet" says there are three blimps, but then goes on to say, "Three of the four craft are outfitted with LED sign technology Goodyear calls "Eaglevision." This allows the aircraft to display bright, multi-colored, animated words and images." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.17.228 (talk) 02:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have found one problem that has been causing it. A single Purpose account had removed some information. Unfortainly I can't WP:Rollback the page as it has valid edits afterwards. The Edits are at  Sawblade5  (talk to me undefined my wiki life) 16:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The section seems to be fixed now (i.e. it doesn't contradict itself), so I'll remove the tag. Synook (talk) 10:44, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

QSE nonsense
This text MUST be cleared of this [|QSE nonsense]. It states:

''quantum singularity engine to generate vertical translocation. The QSE operates by first forming an aspatial cocoon around the blimp, and then by collapsing the cocoon to a quantum singularity of zero dimension.''

it is simply lighter than air, this is a hoax! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.59.181.250 (talk) 17:52, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Material
What is the fabric of the blimp made from? Some form of Goodyear rubber? -- Beland (talk) 15:32, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

New airship
Reportedly the next airship will not be a blimp, but a semi-rigid airship, and will be made out of polyester. -- Beland (talk) 15:34, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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Passenger policy
In Houston, in the mid-80's, they definitely took passengers because my then 7 year old son, his aunt and I were three of them, and we were not corporate guests of the company or members of the press. There was a long waiting list and short notice of availability, and if you couldn't make it they went on to the next person. This was in Spring, Texas, just north of Houston, so it's possible there were different rules for different airfields. They operated there from 1969 to 1992.

It looks to me like anyone may still apply for a ride, but the opportunities for rides for the general public are not great. Both these facts would seem to contradict the lead sentence for this section, "The only passengers that Goodyear will allow on the blimps are corporate guests of the company and members of the press; it has been Goodyear's long-standing policy that no public rides are offered," which doesn't appear to have a reference. But I hate to change it based on my limited understanding of their policies.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? ubiquity (talk) 20:10, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

D-LZFN, the European Goodyear Zeppelin
D-LZFN was the 2nd production Zeppelin NT (and the 2nd to bear that registration). It was put into service in Goodyear livery for use in Europe a few years ago, though it is not owned by Goodyear. That means there are currently 4 Goodyear Zeppelins. The article (as is so often the case) focuses only on the airships in the US. I think we should add D-LZFN. Thoughts? Dcs002 (talk) 06:48, 27 August 2022 (UTC)