Talk:Gordon Duncan

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I don't know why people are removing information from this article - I dare say that Gordon's cannabis usage never appeared much in the media, but then piping isn't much of a mainstream thing to start with. Likewise his suicide. If you want substantiation, ask just about any piper out there. We all saw what was happening. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.62.204.75 (talk • contribs).

please have some respect for Gordons family and refrain from adding any more details on his personal life and subsequent passing away.

I know personally that this would cause a great deal of distress to them, and as you say, pretty much anyone in the piping world would be able to give substantiation.

thanks


 * I won't let this become an edit war (I posted the top comment, BTW), as it will serve no purpose, but I would just note that I knew Gordon slightly and many people that were close to him, family and others. At the end of the day, the path Gordon chose to follow was his own and editing the facts out does not help anybody.  At the very least, if it stops just one uninformed person walking up to Iain and asking what he died of (which I have heard has already happened at least once) then having the information here will do some good.  I hardly think that after what has happened that having a fair account on a reference website is going to cause any more pain. Calum 21:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm with Calum. Wikipedia is about facts, so this article should definitely include information about Gordon's death. (A lot of people looking at this article will be trying to find out about his death.) MatthewLiberal 02:50, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

C naturals
The article states that "although pipers have known for hundreds of years that it is possible to manipulate the bagpipe chanter to obtain accidentals outside the bagpipe's mixolydian scale, these were never used or their possibilities considered until the 1980s when a few pipers began to look into them. Duncan was the first piper to write a 'hit' tune using them." I doubt this is true - many older pipe tunes like George IV's strathspey include c naturals, and they were well known in the border pipe repertoire. Saying that they had never been used before without a citation seems to constitute original research, and I doubt it is true, either. Thus, I think we should state instead that Gordon 'rediscovered' accidentals (let's not forget f natural) and used them in creative, unorthodox ways. Thoughts?--MatthewLiberal 20:44, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


 * George IV's is a fiddle tune. There isn't really a traditional border pipe repertoire of this kind of music extant, only what people have transferred onto it in the last twenty years or so.  As for non-use, find me a single (pipe) tune written using them between Joseph MacDonald (who actually mentions them, dissapprovingly) and 1980.  And Gordon didn't rediscover them - there were other pipers playing around with them at the same time, but the Ferret was the first tune to gain any traction. Calum 11:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

copyright violation
Can clarification be given as to the text whose copyright was violated please, and did it really include almost the entire article, even with subsequent edits taken into account? Mutt Lunker (talk) 23:01, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was taken from http://gordon-duncan.gonetoosoon.org/memorial/, which is all "© Copyright gonetoosoon.org". Any further edits would have been based on this copyrighted material, and thus would have been derived from it and held under the same copyright. Sadly, as it was copied from an obituary, it read like an obituary - this is not the place to honour departed friends and relatives. I'm keen to re-write the article, however, using reliable sources and in our own words! Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 03:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:24, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but I wrote most of this article. Check the edit history and compare the dates.  That site lifted a previous version of what I wrote.  Some of the edits are under my IP, 195.62.204.75.  I am not bothered about that particular copyvio, as the piping world in general is fairly relaxed about copyright and I'm happy for them to use my contributions.  However I object to people yanking my text from Wikipedia without any fact checking whatsoever.  That page went up in February 2007.   is the article on the 20th of January.  Calum (talk) 13:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Compostitions
Shouldn't the article list Gordon's compositions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Piper Bob (talk • contribs) 12:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * A list would be inappropriate, but if you think you could usefully expand the section that mentions hos work, by all means. Calum (talk) 15:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)