Talk:Gordon Lish/Archive 1

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So, there are far, far too many external links and bibliographic entries. Wikipedia is expressly not a repository for lists of these things. I would advocate paring the bibliography down to 10 things at most and eliminating all but a couple of the most representative links.

Furthermore, I think it's obvious that the prose needs some work, the article is simply too long and it delves into trivial and unnecessary detail in almost every one of its (too many) subsections. I can tweak the prose here and there but I don't want to edit the appendices until a couple other people offer opinions on them.-- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 07:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In fact, most of those external links should really be used as footnotes, as they are the sources for the articles.-- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 08:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I did a lot of pruning, removing the very long lists and directory-like information, as well as a lot of the redundancies. Still could use work.-- Dmz5  *Edits**Talk* 08:25, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits
I went section by section and attempted to improve the prose as well as eliminate circular links, redundant and excessive lists (particularly of names), and reorganize slightly to improve flow. I do not have a particular connection to this article or its subject and my only desire is to give a major writer/editor his due with a good, wikified article. I believe the previous incarnation was a very good set of raw materials, and it's terrific that sometime took the time to type in all those lists, but they did not add much to the article but length, and as it stood, it was unlikely to be taken particularly seriously (or even read all the way through) by other readers. I think that it would be best to add stuff back (perhaps using the edit history, which is pretty transparent) rather than revert to the old version, which just invites other editors to come in and spend more time doing what I think I've already done here.-- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 16:19, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Copyedit
I have given this article a good trim - the language was over familiar and rather poor; I have also removed a lot of quite unnecessary links which added nothing and made the page overbearing Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 08:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I was hesitant to remove all those links because I thought it might turn into a conflict with the user who obviously spent a LONG time typing them all out.-- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 00:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Mysterium
Mysterium was never published. It was abandoned. --Mewlhouse 20:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I have removed it from the listing Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 09:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

tao lin fraud
A flag went up for me when I saw the name of Lish's son changed to tao lin. This is wrong, a lie, and this fellow needs to be controlled. This tao lin fellow has written stories using Lish's name and he is what many would call a nutcase. He has a blog and wants to be somebody other than who he is. Watch him.

It is true that Atticus has garnered some celebrity as a cagefighter, so that part may be true about the martial arts.

I have found so many tao lin remarks on the Gordon Lish page that I removed them. In doing so, I may have removed something of importance. My apologies if I did so. But this tao lin character must be stopped.Mewlhouse 17:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Mewlhouse,

Yes, Atticus is Gordon's youngest son.

Gordon has four kids; Jennifer, Becca, Ethan and Atticus.

Jennifer is a psychologist

Becca is an actor / voice over artist

Ethan is a software developer

Although Atticus (Gordon’s youngest son) was a kick-boxer for a few years, he never gained much celebrity. He is better known for his work as a Chinese translator and a artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheHystorian (talk • contribs) 20:55, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I know the above comments to be true. One interesting note is just tonight I watched a dvd called "Demolition: Vols. 1 and 2" with Atticus Lish as one of the headline fighters in a kickboxing match. He did fine, even though he lost by unanimous decision. I have never seen this type of fighting before, but it was fascinating to see the beloved son of somebody who means so much to so many of us.Mewlhouse 01:43, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Mewlhouse, this is Tao Lin, I didn't edit anything on Gordon Lish's page. I don't know why you just assumed that I did that. I didn't. I heard Gordon Lish was angry at me because someone told him about this. I'm sad about that, because I have not changed anything on Gordon Lish's page.


 * Just look back at the page history and you will clearly see your name everywhere in place of the one that should be. I removed "Tao Lin" the perpetrator. If you are the " real" Tao Lin there is really nothing I can say to you. The facts speak for themselves. And yes, I told Gordon about what happened here. Find your bad guy. It is not me. Mewlhouse (talk) 21:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Mewlhouse, this is Tao Lin. Anyone can edit wikipedia pages. I'm saying I did not edit Gordon Lish's page. I did not tell anyone to edit Gordon Lish's page. I do not know who edited Gordon Lish's page. You implied that I was the person who edited Gordon Lish's page, and you called me a nutcase. I'm just letting people know that I did not edit Gordon Lish's page, it was probably someone who dislikes me so wanted Gordon Lish to dislike me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.89.243 (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Just the facts
Over the holidays, I spent a lot of time with the family. I was able to review this article and correct a lot of inaccuracies. Some of these facts have been restored from previous versions, so please don’t arbitrarily make changes, as these are the facts. -=*=- CaptianFiction -=*=- —Preceding unsigned comment added by CaptainFiction (talk • contribs) 17:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)