Talk:Gothabilly/Archive 1

Gothabilly vs. Psychobilly (?)
I don't understand the sentence "Seperate from "Psychobilly" due to the comedic aspect that is often inhibited in the over the top, violent lyrics. Psychobilly is very tongue-in-cheek and often comedic, and also over the top and violent. Is the author trying to say that in comparison to psychobilly, gothabilly is more humourous and less violent, or that gothabilly is more serious and more violent? I'm not sure what that means. Inanechild 19:58, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I really think this should be merged with psychobilly. Only a few acts with articles are listed, and no sources are provided. WesleyDodds 22:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Billy-Fashion: relevant?
Hey, I was wondering if a bit more input about billy fashion would be relevant, we talk a lot about the music here, but clothing is a big part of that movement too, so shouldn't revivalist fashion labels and shop be relevant? Like the boom in petticoats and polka-dots clothing, old school tattoos, etc... I know that in Germany for example, lables like Tolllkirsche cater to the billy-subculture, both psychobilly and gothabilly, and they're contributing big to that scene. Should we put that kind of info in here too? Skehrkrow 14:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Sisters and Fields?
I took the liberty of removing Sisters of Mercy and Fields form the list of influential gothabilly bands, as I very strongly believe that both bands are clearly not associated with the gothabilly or psychobilly movements. Gothic rock for sure, but from a musical and subcultural point of view, there is no connection to the "billy" scene.

I also removed the Misfits and Christian Death, Misfits because in my opinion they are also more Punk than anything else, both from musical point of view and outfit / attitude, and as for Christian Death, I would also rahter put them in the Deathrock section rathen than any "billy" type of scene, but I could be wrong on that one, so please feel free to correct if you disagree. But Sisters and Fields, I very strongly believe that they belong elsewhere.Skehrkrow 14:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

What the F!
Why are The Ramones an influence for gothabilly? Cramps and Misfits, for sure, but The Ramones?! Rose Lacy 01:01, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Changes on Gothabilly
The Ramones should definately definately NOT be included here. If no one minds, I did remove them from the list.

This should certainly NOT be merged with Psychobilly, which is a scene often intolerant to anything considered "wimpy" or "weak", as Gothic subculture (often incorporating makeup and androgynous dress) often is from that hyper-masculine viewpoint. Gothabilly can include "Gothic Psychobilly", but Psychobilly is definately NOT gothic at all. There should be more defining on the difference between "horror" and "gothic".User:Nnoctis

Gothabilly origins...Beg to Differ
Before Salon Betty / Betty X even existed, Cult of the Psychic Fetus and Deadbolt were performing underground Goth and music clubs throughout the Midwest, and the West Coast respectively. To only be listed as a current performer (or not listed at all) undermines the contributions the bands have made to this sub-genre of music. Both bands have shown longevity, and are still performing throughout the US and abroad, but should not be excluded from their influence on this relatively new style of music.

A liitle sub-note: The word "Gothabilly" has been floating around the music scene for many years, but was never considered a sub-genre of music until the release of "Gothabilly - Wakin' the Dead" (1999 Skully Records). Here's a list of all the bands included on this compilation (in order of appearance):

Cult of the Psychic Fetus Mr. Badwrench Psychonuats (Psychocharger) Deadbolt Phantom Cowboys Deep Eynde Agent X and the Kill Vanians The Independents 8 Ball Grifter Thee Hallowteens Empress of Fur The Brain Bats Barnyard Ballers The Witching Hour Brickbats Electric Bird Noise

Some of the bands listed on that compilation are not by any stretch "gothabiily". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.225.28.231 (talk) 02:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Usage
This was erroneously on the main page. Moving to talk:


 * I'm not sure about the term being from the early nineties, as stated above. My friend Jenny Colclough called me a Gothabilly in 1986 at Newcastle-under-Lyme Tertiary college in Staffordshire, England.

Note: the above quote is not by me, I'm just moving it here. 159.153.129.39 15:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

This article is a mess
The bands listed as being a part of this style of music, are for the most part all red linked, they mustn't be notable enough to have their own articles, and as such is there a reason this isn't a foot note on the psychobilly page? Otherwise it's not notable enough to have it's own article!  Doktor  Wilhelm   00:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

irrelevant bands and merger
I removed Hank Williams III and The Horrors, as neither of those have much to do with Gothabilly at all. I agree with most people that this should probably be merged with the Psychobilly article, or maybe the deathrock or horror-punk articles. Belzub 16:30, 04 March 2008 (UTC)

Article merged with Psychobilly
I have merged this article with psychobilly, per the numerous comments here to that effect and the fact that this is a poorly-written, unsourced stub article that amounts to little more than a list of redlinks to non-notable bands. --IllaZilla (talk) 21:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)