Talk:Gothic rock/GA1

GA Review
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Hi. Will start review soon. Kaguya-chan (talk) 22:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria


 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
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 * There is a lot of overlinking in the article. For example, David Bowie is linked twice.
 * The web footnotes aren't formatted consistently. Try Template:web cite

Lead:
 * "Notable gothic rock bands include Bauhaus, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, and Fields of the Nephilim, among many others" can be changed to "Notable gothic rock bands include Bauhaus, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, and Fields of the Nephilim"
 * One paragraph seems short for the lead. Look at Grunge music.
 * "Gothic rock (also referred to as goth rock or simply goth)" Source?
 * "Gothic rock gave rise to a broader goth subculture that includes clubs, various fashion trends and numerous publications that grew in popularity in the 1980s." Source?

Style, roots and influences
 * "Gothic rock typically deals with dark themes addressed through lyrics and the music atmosphere." Source?
 * "Nico's 1969 album, The Marble Index, was also particularly influential." How? Explain more, please.

Origins and early development
 * "The term "gothic" was initially loosely applied to certain post-punk groups."Source and who were the certain post-punk groups?
 * "...much of the fan base came from his milieu" Maybe reword?
 * "Southern Death Cult were themselves icons of the scene" You can leave out "themselves"
 * Maybe spell out NME?
 * "The emerging scene was described as "positive punk" in a February 1983 article in NME" The emerging gothic rock scene?
 * "Simon Reynolds speaks of a shift from early Goth to Gothic rock proper, advanced...." I'm confused. So early gothic rock wasn't the same as the gothic rock that came afterwards?

Subsequent developments
 * Gothic rock is both capitalized and not capitalized (example:"....which draws on Gothic rock" and "American gothic rock began with....")

References
 * A lot of the books are missing ISBNs
 * What makes http://sortedmagazine.com/archive/magazine/sordid/attrition.htm a reliable source?

I'm sorry, but I'll have to finish up the review tomorrow. Kaguya-chan (talk) 23:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Will finish review later today. Thanks for being patient! Kaguya-chan (talk) 14:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Overall, this is a very interesting article and a lot of good research was put into it. However, I'm not sure if it is a good article at this point. It doesn't seem to cover the main aspects of the topic. I'm sure that with a little more work, it could be renominated in the future. Look at Punk rock or Grunge music for examples. Kaguya-chan (talk) 16:57, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually you can leave Southern Death Cult out entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.246.95 (talk) 03:11, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * "Southern Death Cult were themselves icons of the scene" You can leave out "themselves"