Talk:Governor's Body Guard of Light Horse

"Governor's Body Guard of Light Horse" singular or plural?
Thanks for this interesting article (which I first noticed on the DYK nomination page). The opening sentence refers to the Guard in the singular: "The Governor's Body Guard of Light Horse was ...", but throughout the article it is also referred to in the plural, for example in the next sentence "They were established ..." rather than "It was established ...". For consistency I suggest using the singular throughout when when referring to the unit as an entity. I am happy to make the edits if others agree. ~ RLO1729&#128172; 02:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Decided to be bold and make the edits suggested above while I was here. ~ RLO1729&#128172; 05:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi RLO1729, thanks for your recent improvements to the article. As a collective noun it can be used in either, or both, forms in British English and I think I unconsciously choose one or the other depending on what "feels right". See our article on American and British English grammatical differences which uses "Oliver's Army is here to stay / Oliver's Army are on their way" from Costello's Oliver's Army as an example of where both are used in close proximity.  I think the use varies depending on if the emphasis is on the unit as a singular entity or as a group, for example I would say "Manchester United is a football club founded in 1878" but "Manchester United are playing Chelsea tonight".  Possibly this practice varies depending on where one grew up in the UK.  In any case I am not sure if Australian English uses the same conventions, I am happy with the changes you have made to standardise usage - Dumelow (talk) 06:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I've enjoyed working through this article, it's well-written and well-sourced - nice job.
 * I noticed that the Mounted Orderlies are not mentioned in the New South Wales Mounted Police article. Perhaps you could also add a line or two on them there (as you would know the relevant sources better than me) and link that article back to this one. ~ RLO1729&#128172; 06:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, good idea - Dumelow (talk) 07:31, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

GA?
Hi again, wondering if should I nominate this article for GA. What do you think? Cheers. :) ~ RLO1729&#128172; 08:29, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi RLO1729. It's a bit heavy on the use of Sargent but his seems to be the definitive work on this unit and I couldn't find much elsewhere.  Happy to pitch in to help if you nominate - Dumelow (talk) 09:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Uniform details
For reference the article formerly contained the following passages, removed during the GA review above: The Guard wore the British light dragoon uniform throughout its service. In the early period this was a blue tunic with red facings, breeches, and a Tarleton helmet with red and yellow turban and a white plume with red tip. This uniform is depicted in the 1804 painting of Trooper Anlezark. The unit was armed with the pattern 1796 light cavalry sabre. It is not known if the unit adopted the revised light dragoon uniform of 1812, which replaced the Tarleton with a bell top shako and introduced a new jacket.

By 1830, the Guard wore the revised light dragoon uniform of blue broadcloth jacket with scarlet facings and yellow ball buttons, brass shoulder scales, blue cloth girdles with scarlet stripe, blue broadcloth dress trousers with scarlet stripes, blue broadcloth cloaks with scarlet facings, caps with black plumes, leather gloves, and wellington boots. Rank was indicated by chevrons in yellow lace with gold trim. The sergeant had plated shoulder scales, lace girdles, and silver trim to the cap. When off duty, the Guard wore white duck cloth trousers with buttons down the legs and there was an optional round jacket of the same material with facings as the formal jacket. The British light dragoon uniform changed again in 1831, in accordance with William IV's wish to see them in red coats, and in October 1832 the Sydney Herald reported that the uniform of the Guard had been altered to resemble that of the 3rd Light Dragoons. This regiment wore, from 1831, a double-breasted red coat with blue facings and two rows of eight buttons, a yellow and red girdle, and a shako with a band of yellow lace and a white and red plume The Sydney newspaper, Currency Lad, reported that the new uniform was worn by the Guard from New Year's Day 1833. The red coat seems to have been retained after the Guard was converted into the Mounted Orderlies.