Talk:Governor of Massachusetts

Style
In the Box on the right of the page, shouldn't the Governor's style be "His Excellency," and not "The Honorable" as it states in the Mass Constitution, also stated directly below in the "Constitutional Role" area? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.190.10 (talk) 14:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

William Gaston
The link to William Gaston is to the wrong William Gaston. There is currently no page for Governor William Gaston. I am unsure how to add a page for someone with an identical name. If someone can do this, please fix the link.

Thank you.


 * Done! See William Gaston (Massachusetts). &mdash;Markles 22:33, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

add plymouth governors
If the governors of Mass. Bay colony are going to be included here, then the governors of the Plymouth colony should also be listed here, as what is Massachusetts today was not just what the Massachusetts Bay Clony was then.

Residency
Out of curiosity, are Congressmen who represent Massachusetts not eligible because they apparently reside mostly in Washington, D.C.?
 * No, I don't think so. I believe a requirement for a Congressman is to be a resident of the state he or she is representing, so obviously that means a Massachusetts Congressman officially is a resident of Massachusetts.

Acting Govs
In the new table, with Acting Governors denoted with an 'A' in place of a number, it seems a little redundant to place the words 'Acting Governor' under their name. The only exception I think would be someone like Celucci who was both Acting Gov and Gov in his own right at different times. --Briancua 14:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Did they write '£'s into the constitution?
Granted this was the currency of the colonial era, but after the Declaration of Independence, when these positions were created - surely not?

To be eligible for either office, a candidate must have lived in Massachusetts for at least seven years immediately preceding his election, and originally also had to be a Christian owning at least £1,000 worth of real property.

OMG, it's true!

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Massachusetts_%281780%29#Section_I:_The_Governor

''Article II

The governor shall be chosen [annually]; and no person shall be eligible to this office, unless at the time of his election, he shall have been an inhabitant of this commonwealth for seven years next preceding; [and unless he shall at the same time, be seised in his own right, of a freehold within the commonwealth of the value of one thousand pounds; and unless he shall declare himself to be of the Christian religion.] [See Amendments, Articles. VII, XXXIV, LXIV and LXXX.]''

The clincher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_pound

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merge with Massachusetts Governor's Mansion
The article for Massachusetts Governor's Mansion is very lean and mostly says that Massachusetts doesn't have a governor's mansion. It's an interesting detail but it really doesn't seem worth devoting an entire article to. Tim Pierce 18:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Support —Markles 19:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The article is comparable in length to other states.  Sahasrahla 21:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It's not the length of the article that concerns me, it's that the Massachusetts Governor's Mansion doesn't exist. That makes it distinctly non-encyclopedic in my mind. :-)  The fact that Massachusetts has no governor's mansion is a fine detail to add to the Governor of Massachusetts article; it's not a subject for an article in its own right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twp (talk • contribs) 15:20, August 13, 2007
 * Strong Support. Apparently Idaho, Montana and Rhode Island do not have official governor residences either, as shown by the red links in the Official Residences of United States Governors template . Merge this article's text into the Governor of Massachusetts article and redirect it. Truthanado 16:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Support Since there is no actual mansion and its not that long so it will not effect the other article much. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gang14 (talk • contribs).

Question on addressing the Governor
In the top photo, the Governor is addressed as 'His Excelency', shouldn't it be 'The Honorable'? SteveMancarelli (talk) 21:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * In many states yes; but in Massachusetts, Excellency is the proper title. See Governor of Massachusetts.  Otherwise, good catch.  Sahasrahla (talk) 05:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the formatting and the content of the list
I (and someone else before me) have reverted changes made by an anonymous editor to the formatting and content of the listing of governors. These changes are objectionable for several reasons: All of the omissions have useful encyclopedic value.  Magic ♪piano 15:19, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Information was removed that was present in the existing table (specifically, the Electoral History column)
 * It does not use named party coloring (by transclusion of a suitable template)
 * An inexplicably-populated "Term" column was introduced, which at best exposes extreme ignorance over the history of the term length of the governorship
 * It includes, for no obvious reason, the individual's age at the time of their death
 * It omits the acting governors entirely, and introduces the misconception that lieutenant governors become governor instead of acting as such

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Under other high offices held, I have added William Claflin 1869–1872 who was in Congress 1877-81. 07:42, 12 March 2019 (UTC) Noel Ellis

Claims of term limits
Anonymous editor(s) have been adding claims here (repeatedly reverted by myself and others) that the governor is subject to term limits. There are no constitutional limits on the number of terms a governor can serve, unless someone can cite a specific amendment saying as much (there certainly were none in the unamended constitution). Search away.  Magic ♪piano 17:53, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Large-scale formatting changes
I'm about to do some. It asks nicely to bring them up here first. I am doing so. It will prune excess info, source every thing, fix the issues, and bring it in line with the other governor lists. --Golbez (talk) 23:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Splitting proposal
I believe the list of governors section should be split into a separate article called List of governors of Massachusetts. Since other states like Georgia have separate pages for the list of governors then I believe that Massachusetts should be the same. BlakeIsHereStudios (talk) 12:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Just noting that the list was merged into this article in 2012, after having been split out in 2007.  Magic ♪piano 17:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Which is a really, really long time ago. I support a split. --Golbez (talk) 18:01, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Support colonial governors were very different from from the current ones colonials should be split plus they were apointed by the crown so having them in same page would be like having for example the govenors of Benin in the same page as the heads of state of Benin it makes little sense to me.
 * Friendlyhistorian (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Support. The article has grown since 2012, so splitting (or de-merging) the article makes sense. --Woko Sapien (talk) 20:11, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Support. I agree with the logic here. Regardless of what may have been done with the page in the past, the information should be on it’s own list, as is done with most (if not all) other U.S. states. AbbiLy02 (talk) 17:32, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
 * yes i support it too for the reasons i mentioned Friendlyhistorian (talk) 11:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)