Talk:Grafton Street

Grafton Street (song)
Grafton Street is a song by the English pop singer Dido which features in her new album "Safe Trip home", out on the 17th of november. The song is considered Dido's masterpiece, with her moving lyrics, which apparently talk about Dido's feelings after the death of her father, and the Celtic- influenced music. In fact at the end of the song, Dido herself plays the flute in an unexpected a-solo which could move to tears. "Grafton Street" is the name of an Irish street, which is probably linked to Dido's experience of life during the time in which her father was at the hospital or to sometime spent with her father about which Dido remembers. The song is expedcted to be the second single released from the album, after Don't believe in love. In fact, while "Don't believe in love" has just entered the Euro chart and there hasn't been an official worldwide release and video yet for the song, "Grafton Street" is already among the Bubbling under Chart, entering this "under 200" chart on the 14th of October, at number 62. Adrianacleto (talk) 22:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Irrelevant information
I have removed a paragraph about an isolated instance of street crime on the street, as it seems irrelevant and gives the impression that this is an important feature of the street, which it is not. I also question whether Michael Bublé turning on Christmas lights 2 years ago is really essential.Joe Byrne -- Plé -- Contribs - ga: - fr: - - 01:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

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River Steyne
The street was basically laid out on the course of this long-buried river, and it would be good to add a mention. I will try to find a suitable reference. SeoR (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Bewley's first closing date
I'm struggling to find a source for "Following a campaign, the café on Grafton Street, which had closed, was reopened." and I didn't think it was going to be this taxing. Obviously it must be some time between 2004 and 2015, but a basic Google News search only brings up pieces about the more recent COVID-19-related closure. The parent article says "this outlet was closed between November 2004 and May 2005 for refurbishment and restoration" but cites a source dated December 2004 (the same as used here) which cannot support anything in 2005. Any ideas? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  22:42, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi; great to update this surprisingly weak article. On this point, there were multiple 2004 sources for closure and possible fates, but indeed not so much on reopening.  I have a note of one in the Irish Times during 2009, which states: "BEWLEYS - Bewley’s presence on Grafton Street owes as much to tradition as it does to commercial sense, as it represents only 7 per cent of Campbell Bewley’s turnover. It controversially closed in 2004, before re-opening a year later in partnership with Café Bar Deli.", I will get details and add it during the day ahead. And I see I must get back to a water point above too, that will be in either Sweeney or Doyle. SeoR (talk) 00:11, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Cultural references per GA Review
The following are removed per the GA Review conclusion. I suggest that at least one might go back - Bagatelle, for example - but this should be debated. SeoR (talk) 00:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * In the song "Before the Worst" performed by The Script, Grafton Street is mentioned in the lyrics; "It was Grafton Street on a rainy night, I was down on one knee and you were mine for life".(was ref name="LyricsMania" )
 * Noel Purcell made the song "Dublin Saunter" well known; it includes the line "Grafton Street's a wonderland, there's magic in the air".(was ref name="KingL_DubSau" . )
 * Bagatelle, an Irish rock band in the 1970s refer to Grafton Street in their song "Summer in Dublin"; "And young people walking down Grafton Street, everyone looking so well".(was ref - Bagatelle. "Summer in Dublin" )


 * Maybe it's just me and my vintage but, whatever about the others, I think the Bagatelle "cultural reference" is sufficiently worthy of mention. While the lyricsbay.com reference perhaps doesn't establish the nature of the "cultural reference" (to a more removed editor/reader), the connection is perhaps more concretely covered in the Irish Times or in the Sunday Times (UK) and other sources. Personally, if we're to have a "cultural references" section at all, this entry would seem conspicuous by its absence. Certainly, with every respect to Ed Sheeran, Bagatelle's reference is far more resonant a "cultural reference" than Sheeran's cheap (chuck-in-all-the-places-people-heard-of) throw-away mention. And verifiably so (given that that Sunday Times article, for example, uses the Bagatelle reference as a baseline for a 'quintessential' Grafton Street). Anyway, my 2 cents. FWIW.... Guliolopez (talk) 00:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree, esp. re. Bagatelle. Our reviewer, to be fair, was clear that they were new to the topic, and street GAs, and I think we are free, after some discussion to rework the section appropriately - with, as you note, perhaps stronger referencing. SeoR (talk) 01:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

OK. It's been a further week or so and, absent other/dissenting opinion, I've restored the Bagatelle entry. With improved references. To clarify the relevance of the "cultural reference". (As not just throw-away. With the Sunday Times source, in particular, clarifying that the song/lyric is referenced as a baseline for a 'quintessential' Grafton Street...) Guliolopez (talk) 17:01, 16 February 2023 (UTC)