Talk:Graham Gooch

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In 'outside cricket', this sentence is incorrect or misleading "In the mid-1990s Gooch began promoting hair transplants" - Gooch doesn't promote hair transplants. It's a type of wig (although they don't call it that) - hair transplantation is surgery, and the company that Gooch promotes don't do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.72.216.213 (talk) 14:08, 5 August 2016 (UTC)


 * The material describing the rebel tour of South Africa seems to conflate two different English rebel tours. Gooch was a member of the 1981 rebel tour party. The decription of the protests and the unbanning of the ANC took place during (and in response to) a subsequent rebel tour in 1988, captained by Mike Gatting. Gooch was not a member of this rebel touring party. 195.152.219.3 14:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

As noted above, the material relating to the rebel tours of SA is hopelessly factually mangled, plus it is obviously not NPOV. I have therefore removed most of it. Scholiwiki 16:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * In dead matches he could sometimes be seen doing impressions of fellow professionals bowling styles.

Isn't it Gooch who is listed in one of Bill Frindall's books of records as "no-balled whilst impersonating J. E. Emburey" in a Test match? Loganberry (Talk) 9 July 2005 02:19 (UTC)

was the match


 * I think something should be put in about the spat with Gower. It is ironic that Gooch passed Gower as England's top run scorer, given that he was instrumental in ending Gower's career prematurely.  Read Matthew Engel in 1993 and Peter Hayter in 1994 Wisdens for the contemporary strength of feeling in favour of Gower and against Gooch for those actions.

I think far more has to be written about Gooch's period of captaincy in the very early 1990s. We already have references to Gooch over training the squad but if you read "Playing with Fire" by Nasser Hussain, Gooch is defended as being ahead of his time. Whether or not people agree with this is another matter but what is inescapable is that players on those tours of 1990-91 and 1991-92 like Botham and Pringle have publicly stated (and I can provide references) that Gooch went too far and the players were tired as a result. This is the entire key to Gooch's "legacy": he was ahead of his time in training and fitness but went too far too quickly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.10.249 (talk) 14:16, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Added some detail on Gooch's career with Essex, including a number of county batting records he holds.

A true Player in every sense of the word! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dewson (talk • contribs) 03:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Structural amends
I believe the structure needs changing. I'd suggest 1) Early years, 2) Rebel tour and ban 3)Later years 4) Coaching, both for Essex and England. Within all those sections should be references to all forms of the game, First Class, Test and ODI. - If anyone has any suggestions i'd happily respond or just make the changes. Googly75 (talk) 12:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Huge amounts of Verbose, un-referenced paragraphs have been put into the content. I suggest these are deleted, as cleaning up and finding references will take an age. Googly75 (talk) 14:32, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

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I don't really understand the last sentence of the lead: "However he grew more circumspect through his career" What does that mean? Where's the connection to the sentences before that? And why is there no full stop at the end?--84.226.180.143 (talk) 19:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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