Talk:Grains of paradise

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in the main entry. I have moved it to the discussion page. Rest 16:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: There is a story today in the Washington Post which describes the anti-inflamatory benefits which may become a big part of the subject of this spice: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/26/AR2006112600730.html

Perhaps the Wikipedians working on this entry may want to look at this new aspect of the subject. jbreck@nyc.rr.com

melegueta pepper versus grains of paradise
Aframomum melegueta is not equal to Aframomum granum paradisi according to this site: http://www.theepicentre.com/Spices/meleguet.html.

It certainly sounds as if there are two related but different plants, one of which became a common substitute for the other, maybe? If someone has time and resources to research and pin down the differences, we really ought to have two pages. Ed8r (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

See http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Aframomum.html for a botanical view of this. My research in Ottawa Canada says the same, although given the confusion between 'melegueta pepper' and 'grains of paradise' and their near-equivalence in taste I'm not sure two pages are appropriate. The Roman spice came overland from inland Ghana and was probably A.melegueta, although no botanical specimens exist that I'm aware of. The medieval spice was from the then newly explored coastal region of Nigeria and was A.granum-paradisi, as documented in Kew (England) herbaria specimens of the time. Today, the inland Ghana production of A.melegueta is far greater than the Nigerian production of A.granum-paradisi, so most 'grains of paradise' outside of Nigeria are A.melegueta. http://www.henriettes-herb.com/eclectic/pereira/amomum-gran.html shows how to distinguish fruit of the two species. Fruits of both are available from Cary Cairncross http://www.spiceclub.co.za/; their taste is very similar, with A.melegueta having a bit more heat and commanding a slightly higher price from spice merchants of the area. 206.47.113.54 (talk) 17:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 11 October 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs (talk) 18:21, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Aframomum melegueta → Grains of paradise – Per WP:COMMONNAME based on the Google Ngrams. Rreagan007 (talk) 02:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Same reason black pepper there and not Piper nigrum. Skynxnex (talk) 23:53, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Support. This seems reasonable. There are some species of "pepper" broadly defined that don't clearly have a dominant vernacular name in English, but this isn't one of them.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  00:34, 19 October 2023 (UTC)