Talk:Grams (search)

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This article needs to be updated to show this web site no longer exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.213.97 (talk) 04:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes it does Deku-shrub (talk) 17:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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If you're trying to add a legitimate url, I apologize for removing it. Wikipedia has trouble with URLs of sites that primarily operate on the dark web. Authoritative sources are hard to come by, so we can only include URLs that are particularly well documented in reliable sources, and err on the side of exclusion if they may be harmful in some way. If you can point to such reliable sources for the url you're looking to add, that's one thing, but again, we need to err on the side of safety and accuracy. Thanks. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:56, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppet investigations/JohMorris is related to the foregoing. Mz7 (talk) 22:23, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
 * the page is still under attack. I just removed another grams.link edit. --Nanite (talk) 23:04, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . Any grams.link additions should be reverted on sight and reported to the SPI case I mentioned above. Mz7 (talk) 23:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice. By the way, I'd like to open an SPI for all the phishing edits on Bitcoin Fog. Good idea? And if so how do I do it (never done before). --Nanite (talk) 23:28, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Interestingly the Bitcoin Fog stuff appears to be connected with JohMorris. I added to his SPI page: Sockpuppet_investigations/JohMorris. --Nanite (talk) 00:41, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Argh. Good catch. Looks like Mz7 just blocked the latest account. pending changes is specifically because of this link being repeatedly added. :) &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 23:31, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Evidence for grams7enufi7jmdl.onion as correct site.
mnemonic: "Grams enough-y jam dole"

The following sites all confirm this as the correct onion site. Most are from 2014 so it's a bit stale, but apparently there's no reliable source for any type of shutdown.
 * DeepDotWeb (fairly reliable index of onion sites from what I've seen): https://www.deepdotweb.com/grams-search-darknet-marketplaces/ (links 2014/2015 articles)
 * DNStats - an apparently well-regarded uptime tracker, in the community: https://dnstats.net/other/Grams+DarkNet+Market+Search+Engine
 * Wired 2014 https://www.wired.com/2014/04/grams-search-engine-dark-web/
 * Motherboard 2014 https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/z4m4ma/i-let-grams-guide-me-through-the-dark-nets-illegal-bazaars
 * "darknetmarkets.co" (no idea if reliable, but, 2016) : https://darknetmarkets.co/grams/

Is this reliable enough to add as URL? I am not too experienced with the phishing attacks: is having the absent URL (like right now) more enticing than having a present URL, or the other way around? I know it's not our problem, but apparently numerous users have been getting phished. --Nanite (talk) 00:03, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * ( reminded me that DNStats exists; added to list). --Nanite (talk) 02:18, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * With 's support, I'm adding the link User_talk:Rhododendrites. --Nanite (talk) 02:01, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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