Talk:Granado Espada

Two versions
It should be noted somewhere in the Wikipedia article that there are, in fact, two versions of the game. One being Granado Espada which is kept more up-to-date than its counter-part Sword of the New World. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.133.153 (talk) 14:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Updates
I wrote much of the new content here based on research on the Japanese beta, so if changes happen to the game with the official version please feel free to add to this article. -

I did some extensive edits to correct much of the faulty grammar/English, and re-added the party modes. I think it reads more like an encyclopedic article now. - Caliah (talk) 00:51, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Price?
Any info i how much does it cost?


 * Well it'll be Free2Play, but like Knight Online it'll have Premium services (most likely ranging from $10 to $30 for unlimited Premium play). DarkAngel007 01:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's currently unknown. The Korean version is Pay2Play, but other versions are Free2Play. The features section on the North American site state that there will be a "trial", but to experience the full game one must buy the boxed game from a retailer. The Singaporean version has also stated in a site post that they are unsure of which route they intend to go. Ambrosia- 09:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm glad this will be free to play (apparently). More games should be like that. 82.15.9.10 17:13, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm starting to believe that they are going to charge for most versions of this game. Reading the recent announcements as of right now, that is what I suspect. Ofunniku 15:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Playing it now, I can clarify that it's free up to level 20, then an experience cap comes along. You get rid of the cap by paying $20. Payment also lifts other restrictions such as market access. Like DarkAngel1007 said, it is free to play, but freely playable. Eoghanzer 03:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * That's only for the North American version of the game. The Asian busness models are yet to announced. Ofunniku 12:55, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I've just looked it up, and it's P2Play on S.E. Asia. They're trying to minimize the blow by dubbing the model as "Hybrid" but that's just market talk, like saying a pyramid scheme is not a pyramid scheme. It's P2Play because if you don't pay, you don't play, plain and simple. Spare us the "hybrid model" talk. http://ge.iahgames.com/en/news/?aid=219&sec=1&ssec=4 Ofunniku 19:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't think the answer is that difficult to find out. If you go here and click the large "Free2Play? Subscribe now" picture link, it'll open this goofy jscript window that states the price is ~9$ per month. --M.A. 20:03, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

ahh its all free i play all there servers are free, from russia to USA its all free but you can buy gold and buy things with it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petergreat (talk • contribs) 07:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

max characters / account
"The game allows up a maximum of eight character slots" I'm not very familiar with the game but the site says 9 here http://ge.iahgames.com/en/support/?sec=7&ssec=59#q6

You can create 9 characters in a barrack, I've created 9 in my family.Jackietang33 09:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

IAH Games version provides nine characters per account. This maximum count can be raised by purchasing the "1 Barracks Slot" item. The possible maximum would be 36 slots. To note: 1 Barrack is equivalent to nine slots. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushiking (talk • contribs) 09:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

They're changing it back in their 2.4 update where new barrack slots can be bought with in-game currency as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.37.51 (talk) 04:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

TOTALLY free no money but you can buy gold from G1 for the game

Stop Terminology Changes
Stop changing the original game terminology to suit your country's version! Please use the original game terminology so as not to confuse everyone further. The first version is the Korean one and I've done my best to get the English equivalent of the game terms (e.g. Warlock). Not everyone here is playing an English version or is outside Korea or Japan, and the game terms may change even further as new versions appear for each country. You wouldn't like it if it were changed to something unfamiliar, would you? {Caliah 03:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)}


 * This is an English wikipedia. It makes sense to use words used in English versions of the game, especially if the other option is translating. Sorry if this offends you.--ZayZayEM 07:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * In fairness to you both, the game itself still needs a fair bit of translation work. Even in the fresh new areas where you'd expect everything to be bug free, some dialogue is woefully translated.--Eoghanzer 03:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia: Spanish name
Wouldn't the correct Spanish name be Espada Granada - with the genders agreeing? gnomelock 14:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know. But it wasn't developed in a Spanish speaking country.--ZayZayEM 02:06, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The name of the game comes from the two explorers that discovered the "new country" and it doesn't even come from Spanish. It comes from Portuguese. Just like the Port from where they left is Coimbra (Portuguese city and name). It has nothing to do with grammar. Issui (talk) 02:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if it were Espada Granada, it would make no sense. You can't use nouns as adjectives in Spanish, as you can in english. Espada means sword, Granada means grenade (also a type of fruit, whose name in English I don't know). In english, Sword Grenade may make a little sense (as in, something like a grenade that's shaped like a sword). In Spanish however, it's simply two nouns next to each other with nothing to link them.
 * Vd. se confunde, caballero :) Since I'm spanish, I can assure you that "Granada" can be used as adjective, meaning "Foremost, Best" (although in masculine form, i.e, "Granado". In feminine, "Granada" means also "Mature" or "Aged"). Also, since in spanish adjectives do have gender, the correct spelling should be "Granada Espada". Sounds a bit antique, and odd, I can tell you that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.17.116.237 (talk) 03:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Still it makes no sense to discuss this because the name of the game come from the last names of the two explorers that discovered the New Country. One guy's last name was Granado, the other's Espada. Combined you have Granado Espada. There you go, no further dwelving into the subject needed.Issui (talk) 21:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Stuff
Once Knight status is granted via a quest, the player may unlock and access another difficulty level for dungeons he has already passed. Quest rewards range from "Vis" (the game's currency) to Family Points (also known as Ladder Points, used to expand the Barracks and create characters) and NPC Cards.

Uhh??? This is on the Korean Version??? It is different in sGE.


 * I think this should be removed. It will only cause confusion. Can we all pick a version and write only about it? --Eoghanzer 03:06, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Unless we are to diverge versions into new pages (which is a pretty silly idea), this one must suffice for all versions. If necessary, a version section can be created to differentiate version-specific details (such as the Emilia the Sage bit). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.209.160.15 (talk) 13:01, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Modification to the Controversy Article
Removing a link to a website that 'sold' in-game currency and other services for real-world currencies without official sanction of Sword of the New World / Granado Espada. In the spirit of the way games should be played, I do not believe we should accelerate the game's demise. --Aquelian Haze 04:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

So much wrong with the article...Don't really Know where to begin
I guess I'll start with the criticisms section. The patrol function isn't a bot, it is a built in feature, that really can't be abused. Starting the criticisms with basically a compliant that you can bot in all games isn't encyclopedic nor does it have any relevance to the game at hand considering that:

Gold in GE can't be traded between players. And the developer sells gold to the players thus eliminating gold farming.

After that I'll set to correcting the multitude of POV errors and outright incorrect information.

Martinj63 21:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

To Do List:

 * Add A reception section that includes reveiws from esatblished media. ( XxL337d00dxX and WOWrulezall fan sites, doesn't count sorry)


 * Clean up the multitudes of biased and POV issues. ( I actually had to remove four comments claiming WoW was better because of X....c'mon guys)


 * Try and come to some understanding with the players of other versions that their versions terminology, isn't necessarily our Terminology.


 * Improve upon the Links and Trivia sections.


 * Add a section on the World of Grandado Espada.

Martinj63 21:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Think the original header was better...suggest keeping Sword of the New World as a title change as before, since it's only called Sword in North America. (etc. etc. was released as Sword of the New World in North America)

Actually the second paragraph explains it quite nicely (for that matter the first sentence does) I think and avoids confusion. It's either that or create a new article just for Sword...which is a bit silly in my opinion. I guess we could present it as GE/SotnW; after all that's what the Korean publisher says the proper name of the title is for all countries. I'm open to compromise.

Martinj63 22:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


 * How about Granado Espada (Sword of the New World in North America)? Re: the Baroque art, I wanted to note that it's in keeping with the Age of Exploration theme. I haven't been checking on this lately since I've been playing another game, but now that I look at it, the rest of the article could probably use a little grammatical cleanup as well. Too bad I missed the WoW comments.

Sounds good to me. I would just present it as Granado Espada: Sword of the New World. Because thats what both developer and NA Publishers are saying to call it. Working through the grammatical clean up over the next couple days...feel free to jump in and help. :)

Martinj63 23:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's pretty good. Will do :) }

Neutrality issue
If you come here to single out IAHGames for the botting and RMT issues, you should as well include all publishers of GE. All versions suffer from botting and RMT.

Also, Patrol mode was developed by IMC, not IAH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.215.245 (talk) 20:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I have re-titled this section to address more than just the bashing of IAH. Because there are multiple developers, certain criticisms are leveled at a single developer rather than all of them. This creates confusion. As noted by this previous user, it is also NPOV. However, other parts of the article also suffer from poor English and NPOV issues as well as factual inaccuracies. I have been picking away at the critical consensus section, but the entire article needs fixing.

To deal with the developer problem, we're going to have to create a format that does not keep throwing different versions around with reckless abandon.


 * After reading, it seems like the article was revised in favor of IAH corporate propaganda: far from "bashing", there is no sign of what the players have had to say about the game. NPOV should include a truthful representation of IAH's business tactics, and the genuine player reaction. --GEPlayer (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Added video link
Hi, i have added my sword of the new world stage6 channel. For a working in game video link. I would delete the youtube link and search for a more recent one because the link is not working. Abc0815 (talk) 19:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Factions
A new heading for faction should be recommended... as you know colony war is one of the major features of this game apart from boss raids. theOne (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Veteran/Expert level
Do all versions of the game have the veteran and expert promotion available? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.166.78.9 (talk) 20:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In the original Korean/Japanese versions I believe this was called Knight status?

Where Have They Gone?
9 months ago there were plenty exciting info about GE,now it's so diminutive,WHY? – — … ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Eazy: Eazy937 (talk) 12:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

dead ? I left long ago ... Abc0815 (talk) 21:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Expansions
Should we make any mentions about Expansions? I noticed that South Korea has announced a third expansion which includes another civilization.Bloodlustkid (talk) 11:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Granado Espada - clockpunk game?
I am playing on russian server "Cortes" and it's players have very strong discussion about that theme. Even if in google print "clockpunk" (in russian of course), the first page will redirect you on Granado forum. What do you think, is it true? It already has such elemetns like revolvers, automatic rifles, alive marionettes, some other stuff from 19-20 senturies. Sorry for my poor english, but what do the others think?

Granado Espada in Europe
granado-eu.com doesn't exist any longer. RNTS company based in Berlin, actually hosted the game for Europe: Granado Espada Resurrection was launched on 2013, January 23rd. Therefore the company has shut down her servers on 2013, August 1st and invited players to go on the American servers.

American servers: http://ge.t3fun.com/Home/Home.aspx

Information can be read there: https://www.facebook.com/granado.eu — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.220.14.76 (talk) 12:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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