Talk:Grand Theft Auto IV

Proposed merge of Controversies surrounding Grand Theft Auto IV into Grand Theft Auto IV
Overall, a work of WP:SYNTH. It does not seem undue to merge this article to the controversies section, or perhaps also the article about Jack Thompson. A great deal of it revolves around anti-video-game hysteria fomented by a few people, and none of it had any quantifiable effect on the game's popularity or sales. While the main article should certainly have a section concerning responses from public figures, there's no indication it merits a separate article and removing tangential references to the game will trim it down massively. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Not sure I agree with the WP:SYNTH argument but I agree that size alone does not justify a split, especially after trimming some of the extraneous detail and quotes. As the article's primary contributor and GA nominator, I've boldly merged the articles. Feel free to revert if you disagree and would like a consensus here first. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 06:25, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the merge seems excellent and the section is a good size after being pared down. My main reason for gathering consensus was so as to make sure I wasn't missing something, but if the article's main contributor agrees, I don't think that is necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:47, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Online Player count
GTA IV had 16 players in a match not 32. Even GTA V only released with 16 until next gen. 123.243.187.175 (talk) 09:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
 * As the article says, the PC version allowed up to 32. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 09:42, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

About the motion capture
https://www.eurogamer.net/niko-actor-prepared-for-gta-backlash This article mentions that the motion capture was done first, and then michael hollick went to a studio to do facial animations and voice. So it's possible that when, in the gamasutra interview, the image metrics guys were talking about how they "improved" the process with headcams, they weren't talking about gta 4,since in the only surviving image of the motion capture (in the art of gta 4 book) they wore no head cams, but they definutely wore them in the first red dead, and were shaped like a "duckbill" Hayytham (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Good catch; I've made some changes. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 23:04, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * i uploaded the full interview on youtube if you're interested in more details, i don't think i can post the link here tho Hayytham (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
 * if you search rare interview with niko bellic voice actor, it's that Hayytham (talk) 23:21, 10 April 2024 (UTC)