Talk:Grant High School (Portland, Oregon)

Movie
I didn't put this in the article because I couldn't remember the name of the movie, but I know there was a movie shot at GHS. Anybody know the title, by chance? Ketsuban has spoken. The debate is over. 03:52, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Infobox
To the creator: this looks like a good page, may I suggest using the infobox for high schools? You can find it here (there doesn't seem to be a template). Eixo 03:59, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You're way ahead of me. Eixo 04:04, 19 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks, but I found it for myself on Sunset High School (Portland) and decided to implement it. I suppose great minds thing alike, huh? :D Ketsuban has spoken. The debate is over. 04:02, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Another Grant High School
I just added a stub for another Ulysses S. Grant High School (Valley Glen, California). I would like it so that when someone types "Grant High School" in the search engine, it will give you a choice to go to the California GHS or the Oregon GHS and not just automatically direct you to the Oregon GHS. Any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GHcool (talk • contribs) 19:03, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

No more German
Grant High school doesnt offer German as an elective anymore. But you can take it at night school at Benson. So perhaps someone should take out the German in the language part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.202.132.152 (talk • contribs) 17:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

There was a made for TV movie filmed in 1980 also
There was a TV movie filmed at Grant during the spring break vacation of the 1980 school year I believe it was. The name of the movie was "The Reunion". They hired a whole bunch of students to act as extras in the movie. I looked it up on IMDB once but forgot the name of the main actor. Anybody? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.115.25.222 (talk) 08:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The Page Title
I have reviewed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_%28schools%29, which contains the naming conventions for schools. It appears completely proper to have the article's title be the full name as given by the school. If anyone examines the crest, they will note that it says "Ulysses S. Grant High School" quite clearly, depsite containing the initials GHS. There is no dispute that the school is called Ulysses S. Grant High School (and just Grant High School "for short"). So, unless anyone directs me to information saying that this sort of naming convention is incorrect, I think the official entry should be "Ulysses S. Grant High School (Oregon)." BlackberryLaw 09:27, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

There are several problems with the foregoing:
 * 1) You are citing a page that is clearly marked as inactive, and that was never official policy, and contradicts the MoS official policy at Naming_conventions which clearly states, "Convention: Use the most common name of a person or thing that does not conflict with the names of other people or things."
 * 2) Even on the obsolete page you cite is shows that the usage you suggest we implement (listed as "Version 1") had been discontinued already in favor of using the "most popular name" (listed as "Version 2").  You may prefer Version 1, just as I might prefer Windows 98 or even Windows 3.0.  That doesn't make them the current version.
 * 3) You made the changes unilaterally, without discussion, followed by editing my user page to include your protest.  I am certainly trying to assume good faith, but it becomes increasingly difficult given the fact that you clearly have no problem finding talk pages when you want to.
 * 4) I have already posted a message to your talk page informing you that you can go ahead and do what you want, because this is, frankly, becoming to silly for me to want to waste my time on it.  If you want to escalate it to the level of a formal RFC, either in an attempt to get some sort of imprimatur for your unnanounced shuffle of the page, or to effect a change in the MoS that better reflects your sensibilities, go for it.

And just in case there's any doubt as to which name is the more commonly used, a Google test results in about 122,000 hits on the phrase "Grant High School" (in quotes), and 842 for "Ulysses S. Grant High School;" it is referred to on both the Portland Public Schools and Grant High official websites exclusively as Grant High School, never using the full name; and a quick Newsbank search of the Oregonian reveals that it is their policy to refer to the school simply as Grant High School.

As it happens, when I wrote my first pages, I agreed with you that they should bear titles reflective of "official names." After reading the discussion that led to a contrary policy being put in place, and considering how difficult it would be for someone to find, for example, the article on the American Episcopal Church if it bore the title that appears on its incorporation papers, "The Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America." Even the Brittanica doesn't go that far! Most people know to look under Ulysses S. Grant for a school called Grant, but many schools are named after much more obscure figures. In that light, the current policy starts to make a lot more sense (especially when one factors in the limitations of the search function on the site).

So, I've written all I want to on this subject, and then some, with little hope of convincing you. But it's on the record. As I told you before, go ahead and put this article wherever in the site you want. I'll not be the one to move it back next time. -- J-M Jgilhousen 00:53, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 10:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)


 * On the topic, I rated this as 'mid' in both WPSchools and WPOregon, as it was the home to some fairly major movies. tedder (talk) 06:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Special Programs
This is what is listed currently under "Special Programs:"

"Grant High School houses the last installment of the "Japanese Immersion Program", a 13 year immersion program, begun at Richmond Elementary and continued at Mt. Tabor Middle School. Ethnic composition: 41% African American, 40% Caucasian, 8% Hispanic, 1% Native American, 7% Asian, 3% Other.[citation needed]"

The ethnic composition of Grant would seem to be 41% African American, 40% Causacasian, etc, but this is not the ethnic composition of the Japanese Immersion Program. I believe the 2nd sentence belongs elsewhere to avoid confusion. The JMP (= Japanese Magnet Program) is racially diverse, however, with the Asian and Caucasian percentages higher. The PPS website (pps.k12.or.us) would likely provide the citation needed and www.oyanokai.org will also support the existence of the JMP and it's continuation to Grant High School. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.214.213 (talk) 20:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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Vecepia Towery
Winning Survivor is notable, but notable enough to be mentioned twice in the notable alumni list? I'm unconvinced. 50.39.217.47 (talk) 21:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I've removed the duplicate entry, as you could have done. He has an article to show notability, and his attendance is sourced in his article. That's all that is required to be listed as an alumnus. If you want to challenge the notability of the person in question, then the place to do so is on the talk page for that person's article, or at WP:AFD. Either way, unless the bio article is deleted it has nothing to do with this article. Meters (talk) 21:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)