Talk:Grantville (1632 series)

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 * file under growing pains.

Was redirect page talk
Double-swap redirect (was "Grantville, WV"--the original article title, but moved without discussion.) for page name, moved without consensus despite forethought of chosen name. This fictional town is in THURINGIA, Germany, not West Virginia, so this name is very misleading.
 * 1) and can be confused with real West Virginia places... so moved back to 'cure the tens of double redirects caused by the original move''.
 * 2) The name is hardly ever used as is, but is pipetricked to Grantville in the articles when used. Hence this long name makes for more error prone (more characters to mistype) entry and for more editor work, while concurrently disturbing the edit window text more than the shorter name.


 * Call it three strikes, it's out! Best regards // Fra nkB 05:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia &mdash; so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia?  As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abberviation helps, as it's not in WV either... --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Page Moves History
This section cut N pasted from now orphaned Talk:Grantville, West Virginia after newest page move on 17 October by Wwoods -- annotation and cut N paste from redirect talk page (now redirected here too) // Fra nkB 03:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC) re: Vs. 

This article was created with an eye on naming conventions fiction, the key part of which was to specifically avoid naming conventions for US citys and Towns in a state, but to use an state abbreviation so there would be no possible way it could be mistaken that way, and thus to comply with naming conventions for fictional places, to whit, 'the name must not be confusable with any real place'. (paraphrased, I'm sure.)


 * Without discussion, the page was moved creating a redirect AS this page, which
 * 1) Wasn't properly tagged by any {{R from ...} template, etc.
 * 2) Left tens of pages needing cleaned up with respect to double redirects.


 * Today, I reversed this, move manually, and cleared up all those double-redirects in the process. The histories are not straight, so for early history of this page, use the link Grantville, WV page earliest history and that will do. // Fra nkB 05:43, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I've had to undo this, as cut-and-paste moves are expressly forbidden. So far as I understand the situation, this is a fictional town in a fictional universe in which it's actually in Thuringia &mdash; so why not rename it to Grantville, Thuringia?  As it's not in West Virginia, i don't see that using an abbreviation helps, as it's not in WV either... --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 13:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


 * See note above about second move and redirected talk(s) too, around 17 October. // Fra nkB 03:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)