Talk:Granville Gee Bee Model R Super Sportster

There's another newer, smaller article just called Gee Bee that exists, and though I don't know how to do it, I think that the articles should be melded with the phrase "Gee Bee" taking people to this page. (I myself was frustrated when I first looked for Gee Bee because most people don't refer to it w/ the R-1)
 * Gee Bee is the name of the company, so it's appropriate for it not to redirect here. Drutt 18:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

L/D 14? Never!
This plane will never have a L/D ratio of 14.6, come on... It will maybe have 5. About the 31m/s climb ration I also have some doubts. --Eio (talk) 21:10, 10 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Most of the specs are wrong or misstated. I'm not sure who wrote this article, but they didn't understand aircraft.  98.194.39.86 (talk) 10:05, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Gee Bee stands for Granville Brothers.
"Gee Bee stands for Granville Brothers." - Was that really necessary? I doubt anyone who reads this article would not immediately make that connection. SMH 98.194.39.86 (talk) 10:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I beg to differ. There are many, many people who would not make that connection. I remember when I furst read that years ago and thought "oh, yeah, I get it now..."G-B, Granville Bros". It's not Wikipedia editor's job to decide "oh, that must be obvious to everyone because ot seems obvious to ME" and then delete the relevant info. Let's assume that it's NOT obvioius that that it won't hurt people who already know it to read it again, and it might be invaluable to someone without your powers of perception. This is a place for information about the subject. That sentence isn't so long that it ruins the scintillating narrative flow of the text, nor are bytes of data so expensive that it's prohibitive to retain it. If only a few people learn something new from reading that, I think it's worth keeping it, and further I think that more people WON'T know that already than do know it. A good number of people come to an article like this not knowing anything about the subject, out of mere curiousity after having seen the plane in a film for example. They come here thinking "I wonder why they call it a 'GeeBee'? Because, like 'gee!' and it looks like a bee? Or because of 'gees' in stunt flying?" They may or may bot make the connection with the name of the brothers by reading over the article and thinking, but why should they have to when their question can be answered, or theory confirmed with a short sentence? If the plane was called the "GB-1" maybe more people would get it. But many won't get "GeeBee" immediately.

Idumea47b (talk) 05:54, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

"Better visibility"?
"The cockpit was located very far aft, just in front of the vertical stabilizer, in order to give the racing pilot better vision while making crowded pylon turns. " Not even sure how that works - why does the pilot need to see straight down during pylon turns? Wouldn't ahead and down be more important, and "up" be the most important? In any case I was under the impression that the cockpit was located there because the fuselage was tiny, the engine big, and the only place left to put the cockpit after fitting the fuel and oil tanks in behind the engine was back in the fuselage. This is a very small plane, and putting the fuel tanks in the rear fuselage wouldn't be a good idea. You also want the pilot as far from the heat and vibration of the engine as you can. Maybe good visibility was a side effect but I don't think they put the pilot there just because of that.

Idumea47b (talk) 08:30, 12 December 2019 (UTC)