Talk:Grapevine, Texas

map is wrong
the current map shows the city as being in North Dallas county east of DFW airprot. so...... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.182.251 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 31 March 2007
 * The map is incorrect... Grapevine is in Tarrant County...--Broux 13:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, the dot should be moved a few pixels to the left; anyone know how to fix it? - Davandron | Talk 14:24, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Reverting of my Jack Ruby edit
Hi John

I would like for us to have a chance to discuss this matter just between us before involving other editors, etc.

I can understand how you might feel that going into any detail about Jack Ruby's legal drama might be off topic. But here is the reason I made the edit: to say that someone was convicted of a crime, and then completely fail to mention that that conviction was reversed (assuming of course that that was the case) is downright misleading. It would be better to just say something like "the man who killed presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald." (Ruby himself admitted doing the deed.)  Or something like "... several cabins near Grapevine Lake previously owned by Jack Ruby, the man convicted (conviction later reversed) in the murder of presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald."

I don't feel that Jack Ruby's legal history needs to be mentioned at all. But I feel very strongly that, if you're going to point out that he was convicted, then it also needs to be somehow pointed out that the conviction was reversed. That can easily be accomplished by adding literally no more than three words to the article ("conviction later reversed.") Would you be agreeable to my suggestion? Richard Richard27182 (talk) 06:59, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Problem solved. The copy stated that the cabin was located nearby, making the entire bit off topic for this article.  However, for your future reference, the best practice for "clarifying" the issue of his criminal record would be to remove all discussion of it from the article and leave his name wikilinked.  Discussion of his status of non conviction should remain in his article.  I would also suggest you read WP:TRUTH. When well over half the nation witnessed him kill Oswald, whether or not he was legally convicted is quite moot. 18:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi John.  Yes, I agree that the problem has been solved.  Also I appreciate your mentioning the alternate way of dealing with it by removing all discussion of Ruby himself and just leaving his name wikilinked.  Surprisingly that solution never occurred to me, even though it is probably the best solution of all.  I will keep that approach in mind in case I encounter a similar issue in the future in another article.   As you can probably tell, I am *very* new at this.  I figure the best way to gain experience as a Wikipedia editor is to make some minor contributions to Wikipedia articles, and also to learn how to interact with other editors.  (And I've found that doing the one often leads to the other.)  I also intend to read as much as I can of the instructional material provided by Wikipedia for new Wikipedians (including the WP:TRUTH article you mentioned).    Just one last thing.  You seem to be an experienced Wikipedia editor.  Would it be OK if I occasionally consult you if I have a Wikipedia-related problem I'm unable to resolve myself? Rich Richard27182 (talk) 06:18, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

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Grapevine is a suburb of both Dallas and Fort Worth
Stop your edit warring, Smarty9108 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.64.16.226 (talk) 18:44, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Cities closer to Dallas (such as Colleyville, Euless, and Lewsiville), are considered suburbs of Dallas. Oh and check your signature and please add a statement before you edit an article. So you STOP your disruptive editing or I will hereby notify administrators. troublednbored (talk) 20:01, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Sources:

http://www.grapevinetxonline.com/2010/07/grapevine-not-in-the-top-10-of-dallas-best-suburbs/
 * http://www.movoto.com/guide/dallas-tx/dallas-suburbs-best/


 * Neither of the above sources meet the requirements of reliability for sources on Wikipedia. What you would need is a newspaper, book, or magazine that states this city is a suburb of Dallas, or Ft. Worth, or Cincinnati, for that matter. However, this is an encyclopedia and we deal in facts. Why not just say it's part of the Dallas–Fort Worth metroplex, the statistical area that includes Grapevine? That is an unambiguous, undeniable fact and not the subject of a Wikipedia editor's or a journalist's opinion. John from Idegon (talk) 19:34, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * :✅ I will accept that, since it is more neutral. @ John from Idegon troublednbored (talk) 21:14, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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