Talk:Grauman's Chinese Theatre

"Mock" Ceremonies
This page failed to mention the surge of ceremonies conducted for publicity reasons. The new owners call these "mock" ceremonies, but I've noticed that most people are getting misled into thinking they'll find Britney Spears and the Smurfs in front of the Chinese Theatre. Because of that, I updated the "Footprints" section to include more information about these publicity ceremonies. If one wants to see who's concrete hand & foot prints are in the forecourt, the best way to check is to actually be there. (Even the official website of the Chinese Theatre is vague about this information.)--V.M.L. (talk) 00:10, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

How many Academy Awards?
The opening paragraph claims that the Academy Awards have been hosted by Grauman's twice, but this history section lists 1944, 1945, and 1946. What's the scoop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stomv (talk • contribs) 11:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Overeager hyperlinks
I de-linked several terms in this article because they were either redundant (such as Sid Grauman being linked twice within a few lines of each other) or unnecessary or irrelivant to the article itself (such as a link for WWII). As the guidelines [|here] suggest, these links are probably unnecessary for the understanding of the article. (Petruchi41 18:49, 21 May 2007 (UTC))

I delted the following:
 * "According to some sources, the theater's famous collection of footprints began with an accident. Before the Chinese Theater officially opened, owner Sid Grauman gave a tour to some celebrities, during which actress Norma Talmadge unintentionally walked across a wet slab of cement."

Because: MannTheatre offical website PHOTO CAPTION: April 30, 1927: Practicing for the very first footprint ceremony, Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, and Sid Grauman (kneeling) later placed individual prints in two separate squares.

- Ted Wilkes 21:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah - the very first "ceremony". That doesn't mean it didn't first happen by accident. The word ceremony merely implies that it was then institutionalized. Plus, you didn't add anything, so it abruptly cuts off. That looks stupid. - Justin

Whatever the problems with the factuality of the information, previous edits left the variations of the celebrity-imprint "honored tradition" dangling without any introduction whatever explaining the theme of which Harold Lloyd's glasses and Betty Grable's gams are a variation. I've added a very short paragraph to improve the flow of the article at that point. Feel free to expand on it as needed. Ransom 14:49, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

When I came to this article, the first thing I looked for was a list of celebrities who had their handprints in the forcecourt. Not seeing it, I added an external link to that part of the official website. Adamkik 04:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Who is this "Jacob Bellworthy" mentioned in the pop culture section? Google doesn't know about him, so is he really important enough to be in this article? --84.163.147.234 15:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned talk page reunited with parent
This talk page had been linked to Grauman's Chinese Theat re , and has been moved to its current location to be "reunited" with the article page.

Editors, please note: This article has led a double-life until recently, with a doppelganger as spelled in the link above, which is now a redirect to the current article. The alternate page history can be found by clicking this link. Finally, although the title of this page ought to use an apostrophe in the name: Grauman ’ s, that would entail yet another page move, further breaking up the page history. Dozens of links to the article already use a straight quote in the name: Grauman ' s.

---  Schweiwikist     (talk)   07:13, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


 * How unfortunate that, when the article was moved, it was moved to the name with the wrong spelling. Although "theater" is the accepted American spelling of the word, most movie theaters, most of the chains which have operated them, and even the trade organization National Association of Theatre Owners, use and have always used the "-re" spelling. Even such cursory research as a quick check of the Mann Theatres company's web page for the Chinese Theatre reveals that their official names follow the industry norm (but they don't follow it in their URL, oddly enough!) Ah, well. I guess one more error of fact (among such a multitude) in the Wikipedia won't bring disaster. It will merely instigate a bit more theaterical mockery of the project. It's too bad for us all that the exhibition industry didn't adopt the French word "cinema" right from the beginning. Whyaduck 04:22, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

No mention of movie characters?
At this point, I think a lot of people associate costumed characters with Grauman's Chinese Theatre. Why no mention? --64.247.120.100 (talk) 22:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Article name
I'm puzzled by the change to "Grauman's Chinese Theater". A quick look at the official website shows the correct spelling to be "Theatre". (Mann Theaters website) Markhh (talk) 03:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Footprints
"During World War II the theater discontinued installing concrete handprints and footprints. The tradition resumed after the war in 1945 with Gene Tierney"

But then....

Full list of footprint and handprint ceremonies


 * 1) Edward Arnold (January 6, 1942)
 * 2) Joan Fontaine (May 26, 1942)
 * 3) Red Skelton (June 18, 1942)
 * 4) Greer Garson (July 23, 1942)
 * 5) Henry Fonda, Rita Hayworth, Charles Boyer, Edward G. Robinson, and Charles Laughton (July 24, 1942)
 * 6) Bob Hope and Dorothy Lamour (February 5, 1943)
 * 7) Betty Grable (February 15, 1943)
 * 8) Monty Woolley (May 28, 1943)
 * 9) Gary Cooper (August 13, 1943)
 * 10) Esther Williams and Private Joe Brian (August 1, 1944)

How does this not conflict?--Wikidan81 (talk) 03:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

replica at Walt Disney World
Mention might be made of the repica at the Disney Studios in Walt Disney World which is now obscured by a Sorceror's Hat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.115.139.23 (talk) 01:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

mann's to grauman's
hey guys, theres no clear description of how mann's chinese theatre was then renamed to graumans...any evidence anywhere? the article talks about mann and his bankruptcy and then property sold to paramount and warner, but nothing else. anyone with information that can cite this? cheers Xm Alvin M. (talk) 04:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Grauman's to Mann's and the name today
One reason there's no discussion (as mentioned above) of the name change from Mann's to Grauman's is that it heppened the opposite way, Grauman's to Mann's. Sid Grauman built the place in 1922 and it was called Grauman's Chinese Theatre until Mann's bought it and renamed it as Mann's in 1973. There are a lot of people who still refer to it as "Grauman's Chinese Theatre" regardless of Mann's having renamed it and the recent renaming to TCL in 2013. The place became famous with the name Grauman's Chinese -- and it was Grauman who initiated the famous custom of having movie stars put their footprints and autographs in concrete when their films premiered there. Frankly, I never referred to as Mann's and I won't be referring to it as TCL when I speak about it. In my mind, it will always be Grauman's Chinese Theatre -- the name is too iconic to refer to it any other way when speaking about it. If I were writing an article about it today, I'd refer to it as "TCL Chine Theatre, originally known as Grauman's Chinese Theatre for 51 years." I think Sid Grauman deserves that recognition.Toddabearsf (talk) 20:18, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Non-recognition of naming rights
WP:COMMONNAME states that article titles must reflect the common name of the subject based on English-language secondary sources. Arguably, the original name still fits this criterion, as it is still occasionally used by reliable sources since the apparent rebranding. It is more recognizable, and buying naming rights should not mean you get to advertise yourself on Wikipedia. ViperSnake151  Talk  16:17, 17 December 2016 (UTC)


 * I agree with you, but at minimum this page should match List of TCL Chinese Theatre handprint ceremonies. Either way is fine with me. - Immigrant laborer (talk) 14:00, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 9 November 2019

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: page moved (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN MEDUSA  talk  13:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

TCL Chinese Theatre → Grauman's Chinese Theatre – WP:COMMONNAME. As some evidence see article views |Grauman%27s_Chinese_Theatre - despite being a redirect, "Grauman's" has around 60% of the views of "TCL" and exceeds the latter on several occasions, indicating that people actually searching for the article (as opposed to clicking on links) are typing "Grauman's". Ivar the Boneful (talk) 07:07, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Support. Obviously. Clear common name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.