Talk:Gravettian

Well...when is "present"?
BP..before present...that doesn't seem very helpful, we dont know when "present" is? I have never seen this dating method before, could someone emlighten me? Ciriii 15:12, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Before Present is 1950 AD. Mhocker 14:45, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Can anyone explain to me how to edit the caption to a photo? The caption to one photo on this page, "Burins to the Gravettian culture" isn't English, but I can work out how to get access to it to correct it.

And incidentally, is there a page somewhere which explains in English and not in code how to add/donate a photo to a particular page, because despite hours spent wandering around Wikipedia looking for this, I can't find it.

Zosterops (talk) 03:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Very, very true! These intelligent users seem completely unaware of the ambiguous nature of "BP" if used without the due specifications! And moreover, someone inserting the "(c. 32,000–22,000 ya)" obviously was unaware of the dates given in the introduction. This is simply CRUELLY poor work!!! Find more dates in other wikis!! HJJHolm (talk) 09:46, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * User:HJJHolm, that's a really old post you're replying to. I agree that a lot of editors don't understand and misuse BP and I correct them when I can. But I'm not sure what you mean "find more dates in other wikis", we should only use academic sources for articles such as this one. In almost all cases other 'wikis' aren't considered to meet our criteria for sources at WP:VERIFY and WP:RS. Doug Weller  talk 12:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * In other wikis, naturally means, if reliable sourced are referenced.2A02:8108:9640:AC3:C5F7:6310:54A1:5DBD (talk) 13:58, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Moreover, what shall "old post" mean, if the dates are still ruelly unspecified. That remark does no help for anyone and thus innecessary.2A02:8108:9640:1A68:4DF8:A0AF:4F2D:BE71 (talk) 09:06, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Were they Negroids?
Böri (talk) 11:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Sources for dates
Klein and Fagan.. Doug Weller talk 18:55, 28 December 2015 (UTC)


 * In the box:

"33,000[1] to 21,000 BP[is this date calibrated?][a]" < Are you shure these are RC dates???? I fear these are the simplistic geologists dates "before today, geologists roughly AD2000"


 * "At this point, it was replaced abruptly" 22000 or 17000 ?????

Is it really necessary to include information about some pendant from Romania into the main text? Isn't it some advertisement?
In August 2013, Romanian archaeologists found a 20,000-year-old Gravettian pendant at the Paleolithic site of Poiana Ciresului (English: 'Cherry Glade'), near Piatra Neamț, in eastern Romania.[1] The newly discovered objects will be included in the Paleolithic artifacts collection of the Târgoviște History Museum, in the new section of human evolution. The department will open at "Stelea" Galleries with the support of the Dâmboviţa County Council. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Centrum99 (talk • contribs) 20:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I was wondering the same thing yesterday. I took it out. We know a great deal about this culture (this article ought to be expanded), and that pendant is not exceptional (as far as I know). Nicolas Perrault (talk) 10:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems reasonable. Doug Weller  talk 14:40, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Merge - Use of animals during the Gravettian period to here

 * Proposed by Dbachmann*
 * Support Johnbod (talk) 13:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Support St. Caurgula (talk) 15:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

To add to article
To add to this article: a mention of the term "Ice Age." 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:15, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
 * No doubt you mean Last Glacial Maximum - in line 2 of the article - not Ice Age. Johnbod (talk) 21:16, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Neanderthal comparisons
The current first paragraph under the "Diet" heading makes a comparison to the dietary and hunting traditions of the Neanderthals, specifically, that Neanderthals were incapable of migrating to follow herd animals. The provided citation is not adequate to support this claim nor should it be used as a citation to support much of anything else, given its brevity and lack of supporting evidence. 147.49.168.215 (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
 * While I could not access the source cited there, from my read of the sentence in question I'm inclined to agree with the IP editor's assessment. I don't think a good enough argument is presented there to support the statement re migration capability. Eric talk 02:58, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the problem, really, is that the citation is for a journalistic review of a book, rather than the actual book itself. It's entirely possible that the book actually contains great source material for the statement, but it's not in the source actually cited at all. 147.49.168.215 (talk) 14:17, 3 February 2023 (UTC)