Talk:Gravity bong/Archive 1

I hope this shit doesn't get deleted.
Why delete this article? I find it useful and informative, if in need of a little sprucing up. Its not spam or unhelpful, I really do hope that request for deletion gets removed ASAP! For shame.

These are REAL!
This article is not very informant, and cites information that is irrelevant to the subject matter. i.e: popular in australia and new zeland. And if i remember correctly, the last time i searched this page, there was a lot more information about the gravity bong, and a picture too. People totally use these and there is another vairant where a valve is used so you can shoot the smoke into your lungs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.26.237 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 26 April 2009

Title
I feel like the title should definitely be "Gravity Bong"- I've never heard the term bucket bong before (where is this term used?). From what I can tell from UrbanDictionary (not the best source, I know) Gravity Bong seems to be a more popular term, based on the number of entries and the number of ratings for each entry. Opinions?--Kickflipthecat (talk) 20:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please know that in wikipedia Urban dictionary is not an admissible refernce. Please read Verifiability, WP:CITE and "reliable sources", if you want to contribute. Sorry, I had to remove your additions to this page. Personal knowledge of a wikipedian is not counted as a reliable source of information. - Altenmann >t 23:49, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * None of those contributions are from Urbandictionary, I'm just saying I think that Gravity Bong is a better title than Bucket Bong. In my experience it's a more recognizable term, but that may or may not be true worldwide, which is why I wanna have a discussion on the matter.  Also, I don't understand why you had to delete everything, why can't you just say that it doesn't cite it's sources?  I understand the whole verifiability vs truth thing, but I feel like if it's not false information we're better off with the information and a mention that it's not cited.  Gravity bongs really aren't covered in scientific journals, you see, and it may be a bit difficult to find reputable sources.--Kickflipthecat (talk) 00:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please understand that this is how wikipedia works: no published reliable sources - no text in wikipedia. Without refs there is no way to distinguish a trustworthy wikipedian from a sly joker or original inventor. As for "aren't covered in scientific journals", I guess it speaks more of laziness of wikipedians than of actual lack of coverage. For example, the current miserable article mentions a book with a whole chapter about bucket bongs. Nobody cared to read it and report. I guess, it is much more fun to smoke some pot and then tell a story. :-) - Altenmann >t 15:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There are pretty much no sources that I can find on this. It indeed seems to be more commonly called a gravity bong.  I suggest the article be renamed this.  On the page it should also be mentioned that it is called a 'bucket bong' or 'buckie'.  On a side note, I can deliver a picture of one if needed. Danyewl (talk) 01:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In Liverpool, UK, we simply call it a bucket. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.155.232 (talk) 22:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've never heard a gravity bong called a "bucket bong". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.100.243 (talk) 05:42, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Picture text
There has been a couple of instances of the picture text being changed to 'bucket bongs are most common in New Zealand'. I have changed it back from that as that sentence seems to be original research and ambiguous. Are they more common in New Zealand than any other type of bong, or are buckets more common in NZ than anywhere else in the world? Either way it's original research or needs a reference. Arnie Side (talk) 11:41, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Please do not remove my remarks from the talk pages. You may disagree with what I am saying but please have the decency to allow me to say it. Arnie Side (talk) 12:52, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Vice Versa so don't have a cry about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.82.158.124 (talk) 01:38, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * User:118.82.158.124, it would behove you to remain WP:CIVIL in your comments. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Warranting of Cleanup-tense and Howto
I do not believe that this article should warrant Cleanup-tense and Howto. There is nothing wrong with the tense's grammar (any issues will most likely be fixed for GAN), so it shouldn't need a Cleanup-tense template. As for Howto, yes, the article does explain what is needed for making it, but such facts are needed to describe the bong and what it does. It is presented facts anyways, and definitly not a how-to article that will "train" readers. If any user finds/feels that the templates should be warranted in the article, please either fix it, or start a discussion here. Thanks, Crowz  RSA  20:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC).

Glass jar?!
Who makes a grav bong out of glass jars? The inner chamber needs to have holes in both the top and the bottom, I haven't seen an easy way to do that with glass jars. Most look like the one in the photo -- a plastic bottle inside of a bucket. 67.175.146.68 (talk) 13:52, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was move per request. In addition to the rationale given below, gravity bong appears to be significantly more common in English language reliable sources.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:32, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Bucket bong → Gravity bong – The page "Bucket bong" should be renamed "Gravity bong" because the page contains descriptions of both the bucket bong and the waterfall bong. These bongs are both in the gravity bong category. It is odd to name a page "Bucket bong" when the page clearly focuses on gravity bongs (both bucket and waterfall bong). Crowz RSA  21:21, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.