Talk:Great Depression/Archive 7

Semi-protected edit request on 8 December 2021
World War 1 was over. The 1920's in Canada were a time of peace, prosperity and changes. 66.85.12.136 (talk) 17:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC)


 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:32, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Consensus unsourced + incorrect
"The common view among most economists is that Roosevelt's New Deal policies either caused or accelerated the recovery, although his policies were never aggressive enough to bring the economy completely out of recession." - this is not true. Most economists since Friedman believe ND/NIRA were ineffective or worsened the Depression. Professors Harold Cole and Lee Ohanian have the most recent publications on the freshwater econ perspective. Please remove this sentence.VanessaD111 (talk 03:15, 2 February 2022


 * The NIRA was in effect for a small part of the New Deal years. Overall each term showed major gains in GNP (and declines in unemployment)  GNP was up sharply from March 1933 to start of 2nd term in Jan 1937; it was up from then to start of 3rd term in Jan 1941; it was up sharply from then to start of 4th term in Jan 1945. COle and Ohanian are a small minority among economists. Rjensen (talk) 04:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Change in GNP is not relevant to the claim made here - the article needs to demonstrate that the common view among most economists is that the ND caused or accelerated the recovery. This is highly disputable and almost certainly not following the Neutral POV rule. Cole and Ohanian are not a small minority, even Edward Prescott praised their publications and used their models in conference. Fumio Hayashi and others used the same Ohanian growth model to study Japan's lost decades. VanessaD111 (talk) 21:05, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Added lead section too long
I've added a lead section too long template to the top of the article as there are 8 paragraphs for an article more than 30,000 characters long. I'll move some of the lead section's content to the body of the page in the coming days Owen250708 (talk) 12:41, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2022
March of the Hungry in Sanok [pl] Polish wiki link links improperly, should link to https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsz_G%C5%82odnych_w_Sanoku instead. 193.43.231.70 (talk) 09:14, 9 February 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thanks. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 18:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022
In the first paragraph, "Great depression" should be "Great Depression" Alphazom123 (talk) 00:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ — Sirdog (talk) 01:31, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2022
From: With the rise in violence of Nazi and communist movements, as well as investor nervousness at harsh government financial policies. Investors withdrew their short-term money from Germany, as confidence spiraled downward.

To: With the rise in violence of Nazi and communist movements, as well as investor nervousness at harsh government financial policies, investors withdrew their short-term money from Germany, as confidence spiraled downward.

(full stop to comma before "investors") 2A00:23C4:248A:3401:81B5:41E4:677D:A21A (talk) 01:23, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Aaron Liu (talk) 22:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2022 (2)
Decapitalize "payment" on: moratorium on Payment of war reparations in 4.3. 2A00:23C4:248A:3401:81B5:41E4:677D:A21A (talk) 01:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ Aaron Liu (talk) 22:43, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

A few suggestions
That is a few things I can think of you could add Wally Ferris (talk) 03:47, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) It was the worst economic depression of the industrialized world
 * 2) There could be something about who the president was (Herbert Hoover when the stock market crashed and then Franklin D Roosevelt starting 1932)
 * 3) There could be a mention of the dust bowl and drought
 * 4) Mentions of Shanty towns

Edit Requests
1) Under the heading "Gold Standard" it says "Every major currency left the gold standard during the Great Depression. The UK was the first to do so." But the chart just above shows Argentina and Brazil leaving earlier. Change to: "the first Western country to do so".

2) Under "Turning point and recovery" it says "It was the rollback of those same reflationary policies that led to the interruption of a recession beginning in late 1937." This is badly worded. Was the recession interrupted? Change to "policies that interrupted the recovery with a brief recession beginning"

3) Search for "political turmoil" which occurs in two almost-identical blocks of text. The first instance ends a sentence and is grammatical. The second doesn't and isn't. Make the second the same as the first.

4) Under "Poland" it says "To adopt to the crisis, Polish government employed deflation methods". Change to: "To adapt to the crisis, the Polish government employed deflationary methods"

5) At the end of the same paragraph it says "kicked off the economy, to over 10% annual growth rate". Change to: "kicked off the economy to an over-10% annual growth rate"

6) Under "Spain" it says "By staying neutral in the Second World War, and selling to both sides[clarification needed]".  This is nit-picking: what is unclear about "selling to both sides" after "war" has been mentioned? Do they want details of what products were sold or to what countries? Remove the note.

0) It used to be that when a restricted user attempted to edit a protected page, this automatically opened an Edit Request. Now I only get a box telling me in detail that I can't edit (which I already knew from the lock symbol). Please forward to the correct area a request that this feature be restored. But there are fairly-recent Semi-Protected Edit Requests above. How did they generate those?  202.161.64.71 (talk) 15:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Indonesia
The Netherlands had intended its colony the Dutch East Indies to be a producer of raw products and a consumer of foreign manufactures. By the 1920s, Java—an island of Netherlands India—was the largest producer of sugar in the world after Cuba, however two-thirds of the sugar mills on Java failed during the Great Depression. Another effect of the economic crisis was that the price of raw materials exported by the Indies fell much more rapidly than the price of finished imports. As a consequence, the liberal economic policy which dated from the late nineteenth century which enabled Dutch goods entering the islands to be taxed the same low tariff as goods from other countries, was changed at a time when inexpensive manufactured goods from Japan were beginning to flood the Indies market. The result was adoption of a quota system resulting in reciprocal trade agreements. As world tensions increased, these agreements became political rather than economic, and were aimed at halting a Japanese economic invasion.

Philippines
The market crash of 1929 affected mostly peasants and workers in the Philippines, which at that time was an American colony. Prices of the basic export crops dropped drastically, causing grave hardship on the peasantry. Many were evicted from land and home and even those who continued working sank into debt. Urban workers lost their jobs as businesses failed. Others suffered cuts in wages as employers passed on to them part of their reverses.

A source of the period linked the rise of the Sakdal movement with the Great Depression.

The postwar depression of 1932-33 further stimulated the labor movement, because our workers sought the protection of labor unions in order to be able to keep their jobs.

Indonesia

 * Clyde, Paul H., and Beers, Burton F. The Far East:  A History of the Western Impact and the Eastern Response (1830–1970).  5th ed.  Englewood Cliffs, NJ:  Prentice-Hall, 1971; reprint ed., Quezon City:  Phoenix Press, 1972.
 * Pringle, Robert. Indonesia and the Philippines:  American Interests in Island Southeast Asia.  New York:  Columbia University Press, 1980.

Philippines

 * Constantino, Renato. The Philippines:  A Past Revisited (Pre-Spanish–1941).  Vol. 1.  Manila:  n.p., 1975.
 * Zaide, Gregorio F. Philippine History:  Development of Our Nation.  Manila:  Bookman, 1960.

122.52.197.131 (talk) 02:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

A problem
Someone has edited the wiki. Heres what it is now.

A period of great subdression. Where the entire world went flat for 0.54333333333 seconds happened in 1928 december 31st 11:59.99 seconds which caused the great depression! Yeah!

Please edit this. 69.156.74.15 (talk) 17:53, 30 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I have also seen this as well. I was about to report this too. Wikibrowser30 (talk) 18:29, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2022
Cut "subdression. Where the entire world went flat for 0.54333333333 seconds happened in 1928 december 31st 11:59.99 seconds which caused the great depression! Yeah!" from the first line (revert changes made by Cork32454 at 17:23 today). Catogram (talk) 18:36, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Dust Bowl
There are only 2 mentions of the Dust Bowl in this article, one in relation to Canada and the second one in relation to FDR demagogy. In reality, the Dust Bowl was the MAIN reason for the "greatness" of this depression. FDR tyranny being the other main reason, of course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.249.43.225 (talk) 07:32, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Great Depression Soviet Union
This text should be revised by professional historians. This text is written just terribly ridiculous. (They write about millions of dead... I want to ask why you did not write about the billions dead? Or about the trillions dead? It also has to be written that Stalin ate children.) This mess! Wikipedia should refer to the facts and scientific works of historians, especially when it comes to such topics. And not refer to the myths, invented by scoundrels. There was no socialism in those years, it was still developed by the Soviet people. Moreover, there can be no talk of communism, because there was not even socialism. What does "Russia" do in the text? This is extremely ignorant and insane. Then there was no Russia. And there was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (which is a socialist state of workers and peasants [since 1936]). Gnosandes (talk) 19:36, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Your comment is as rediculous as your userpage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.249.43.225 (talk) 07:40, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Cambodia
Economic history of Cambodia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.197.131 (talk) 08:12, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Malaysia

 * A Tale of Two Crises: Great Depression and the Great Recession
 * Malay Reaction to the 1930s Economic Depression in Malaya — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.52.197.131 (talk) 08:12, 27 December 2022 (UTC)