Talk:Greater Region of SaarLorLux

Importance
I changed importance to high, because Google showed 387.000 results for sar lor lux and this term is known in several countries. --Thw1309 10:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Maybe. Currently, WikiProject Luxembourg assesses 'Greater Region' as a High-importance article.  With the creation of this article, I'd suggest that that one loses importance, whilst this one replaces it in many respects.  So I would tend to agree with regards to WikiProject Luxembourg.  Can't say for the other WikiProjects, though; it's best left to them. Bastin 18:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Cooperation v. Cooperative?
Does 'Cooperation' have an European Union specific meaning? I think the word 'cooperative' might be better. Gosgood (talk) 00:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Final Comments

 * Commencing: 2008-01-19
 * Completed: 2008-01-27
 * Nominator: Thw1309
 * Reviewer: Gosgood
 * First pass based on: Revision 185460170 (as edited by Thw1309 (talk | contribs) at 13:48, 19 January 2008.)
 * Second pass based on: Revision 185649882 (as edited by Thw1309 (talk | contribs) at 11:03, 20 January 2008.)
 * Third pass based on: Revision 185869818 (as edited by Gosgood (talk | contribs) at 10:12, 21 January 2008.)
 * Final pass based on: Revision 187293780 (as edited by Chris the speller (talk | contribs) at 14:35, 27 January 2008)
 * Criteria: Revision 184300095 as of 14:32, 14 January 2008

Outcome: Fail.

In any case, I commend Thw1309 for greatly improving the article over the originally nominated version. He transformed the many parts of the article from a stilted, list-like form, to a sound narrative and introduced new material as well. The real gain, I think, is that the article is now a very solid B, where the nominated version still had aspects of a Start class article.

The facets of this article that I think need improving are:
 * 1) Prose:
 * 2) There are a number of awkwardly phrased passages. Examples:
 * 3) When this empire was divided in three parts after the death of Louis the Pious, in 840, the Carolingians adhered to the Germanic custom of partible inheritance, and the Treaty of Verdun in 843 divided the empire into three.
 * 4) Problems not only result from the real differences but also from the missing knowledge of the existing competence of the partners.
 * 5) Scattered misspellings:
 * 6) "For excample, besides Wallonie..."
 * 7) "The eight summit..."
 * 8) Apparent, or inadvertent Original Research in some of the new material. The writer is native to Saarland, and what seems to be personal evaluations slip into the writing. Examples:
 * 9) Although politics create promising programs, their progress is limited. Mainly they create symbols as the "house of the Greater region", which is almost empty, or diplomas with the sign of SaarLorLux. The only real advancement, local politics can create, is the improvement of knowledge of the other language by creating bilingual schools.[67] This reads like the editor's interpretation; it would be better attributed to the author of the cited work, Katharina Hassler.
 * 10) Clubs and single persons are looking for cooperations with like-minded people on the other sides of the border. They discover, that they actually share the same roots. Although the borders created many differences, especially the language, people discover, that for centuries, they had a history in common, which still is present in many aspects on all sides of the borders. Many of these cooperations or associations have to stay on an informal level, because it is very difficult to create legal structures of cooperation as long as the legal systems in most parts are not compatible. In a certain way, this is compensated by the possibility to use the advantages of differnt natiolal systems. Things, which are impossible on one side of the border, are supported by the other state. It is not clear to me where the antecedent to this analysis resides in the references.
 * 11) The section Governmental Cooperations  is list-like, and not summary prose; I feel the material here can be telescoped into summary descriptions giving rise to a terser, easier-to-read section.

Initial observations and draft comments may be found in Draft Comments

Merge proposal
SaarLorLux and Greater Region Many informations duplicated between the two articles. http://www.euregio.lu/euregio.lu/html_fr/qui_sommes_nous/index.html use as well SaarLorLux+ and Greater Region for the same area.Ske (talk) 15:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I do not agree. SaarLorLux and Greater Region are two different concepts, both on an economical as well as on a historical level. One could, however, try to reduce the redundancy in the SaarLorLux article and point to Greater Region for an advanced concept of the regional collaboration. But that's just my 2 cents --Clausekwis (talk) 13:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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Merger proposal Greater Region into Greater Region of SaarLorLux
I propose merging Greater Region into Greater Region of SaarLorLux. --Heanor (talk) 16:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)