Talk:Greatest Royal Rumble

WWE Greatest Royal Rumble
WWE 50 Man Royal Rumble Match


 * So what the winner going get if they win? 🥇BUS rider2015  (talk)                                       . 21:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Why would you ping me for this? Dont you think if it was announced that would be in the article already? Also perhaps you should learn what the ratings mean before you go changing them. You changed this from low to high, yet high means This article is fairly important to this project, as it covers a general area of knowledge. I would love to hear you explain why this article expresses general knowledge of professional wrestling. -  Galatz Talk  21:53, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You were pinged cause you clearly contributed this article in early revision, Is High because is the WWE Greatest Royal Rumble features a 50 Man Royal Rumble for the first time, thus making this high rating and expecting very large important details to be place in the article version soon.

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Importance scale As table says.

Regards, 🥇BUS rider2015 (talk). 22:22, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Once again your posts make absolutely no sense, and your comments are clear WP:CRYSTAL -  Galatz Talk  13:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


 * General Knowledge gain from this Wikipedia article because WWE Greatest Royal Rumble with 50 Man Royal Rumble match happening for first time, gotta let people know how importance is the Special PPV Event being a First timer. This would be considered as High Importance.


 * That's not how it works. This article only refers to a specific WWE event, not the first professional wrestling event that has ever happened in Saudi Arabia, thus "it covers a highly specific area of knowledge or an obscure piece of trivia." Also, you don't have to ping people here just because they contributed to the article. You can just make the post without pinging anyone. -- JDC808  ♫  05:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

If we already know who the WWE and United States Champions are then why aren’t they represented on the page? Real ZachJohnson (talk) 02:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * They could change, so until its billed as something it shouldnt be on the page. -  Galatz Talk  11:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

WWE Network event
Do we consider the fact that they are mentioning you miss it when you cancel enough confirmation that this is a Network event? -  Galatz Talk  12:34, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It’s considered both a traditional PPV and Network event now. I added 2 new references confirming it. OldSkool01 (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Work in progress this PPV Event.. https://www.cbssports.com/wwe/news/triple-h-explains-why-wwes-greatest-royal-rumble-is-still-a-work-in-progress/ details to be clear up when times comes near. 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks -  Galatz Talk  01:00, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Why WWE Decided not to have Women Championship matches??

 * Did you forgot to add it? 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 21:28, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are talking about -  Galatz Talk  21:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh wait is Saudi Arabia, They do not support equality. So that why its only Men`s matches in this Special Event. 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Unless you are basing this on a WP:RS it is WP:OR, as you have been told time and time again. -  Galatz Talk  20:56, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Kinda Obvious now where the special PPV event landed (Saudi Arabia) pretty much they dont like women who expose their skin. its WP:COMMONSENSE. 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Or WWE just haven't scheduled a women's match YET. -- JDC808  ♫  01:49, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Your answer is the PERFECT example of WP:OR. They had women wrestle in an Arab country last year, so what is your point? -  Galatz Talk  02:36, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * No i think just that area  Jeddah.  🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 03:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Stub / Incomplete
WWE CEO Triple H Already said that this Greatest Royal Rumble Event is work in progress, so this WWE Greatest Royal Rumble Wikipedia Article is currently stub. Not contributing until the more details to be released. 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Why did you create this sub-section? It's obvious that it's a sub article. No need to tell us, and there's no need to tell us that you won't be contributing. We'll see that you haven't contributed in the article's history. -- JDC808  ♫  05:14, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, we do not need HHH (who is not CEO) to tell us that. Str1977 (talk) 13:40, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Best news I heard all day. -  Galatz Talk  15:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 * https://www.wwe.com/shows They called this a Signature Event, not PPV or just Event.
 * Do you have a point? I assume not, since you never seem to. -  Galatz Talk  20:39, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

'''So its no longer called a PPV as i will removing PPV References,"PPV", and "pay-per-view" word from WWE Greatest Royal Rumble Wikpedia Article page since this just a Signature Event. '''

❌ Removing Words PPV from this Signature Event "Great Royal Rumble"

A Suggested Edit would be _

Greatest Royal Rumble is an upcoming signature event promoted by WWE for their Raw and SmackDown brands.

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🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The ppv and WWE Network is supported by WP:RS. Just because the WWE calls it a signature event, it does not mean it is not the other things. Do you intentionally try and just say useless stuff on talk pages or does it just come natural to you? -  Galatz Talk  12:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Not useless, sometimes talk page is use to help edits. 🥇 BUS  riderSF2015 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 27 March 2018 (UTC)


 * What actually is a "signature event"? There's no need to parrot WWE's marketing terms. Str1977 (talk) 06:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Match Listing
OK so I'm changine the match listing because most it is nonsense.

Matches have been announces for the WWE Championship, Universal Championship, Intercontinental Championship, United States Championship, Raw Tag Team Championship, SmackDown Tag Team Championship and Cruiserweight Championships, but to the best of my knowledge only one of those have confirmed participants, that being the Intercontinental Championship (The Miz vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Bálor vs. Samoa Joe), that said we do not know which of three of those guys will actally be champion going into the event as Miz, Rollins and Balor meet at Wrestlemania. This means that with the exception of that single match we have no confirmation of the identity or number of partipants in any of those matches so I have changed all of them to simply "TBA"

We do know that The Bar will face The Hardys but we do not know if this will be for the titles as The Bar are still to defend them at Wrestlemania, it could well be that those are two spearate matches. As for Alexander vs. Murphy, Alexander is not yet champion and nowhere in the reference provided is Murphy mentioned.

Please do not add speculation or other information not contained within provided references.Hackerjack (talk) 10:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia reports based on sourced information. The source bills them as the champion, then thats what we put. -  Galatz Talk  11:24, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Like Galatz said, how was it nonsense? this is how we format the table if we don't know the participants. As for the matches with the known participants, we list the current champions until the title matches WrestleMania happen. I have reverted your edit as per WP:BRD, please don't change the table unless there's a consensus. TheDeviantPro (talk) 11:37, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Its nonsense because there is no confirmation they will be champions at that time, would you put the 2019 F1 champion down as the winner of the 2017 season just because you don't know who wins in 2018 yet? Also it's massively inconsistent as no assumption has been made about the champion for any other match.  Why is marking The bar as champions any more valid than marking AJ Styles would be? Either assume all champions will remain unchanged or none, this in between method has no logical reasoning.  My version stated facts, your is prediction which is not what Wikipedia is for Hackerjack (talk) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Your arguments are so baseless, its actually pretty funny. AJ Styles won the US Championship last year at a house show, title changes happen on Raw or SmackDown all the time. Do we wait until after the last SmackDown or houseshow before the event to list who is champion? What do we then do if the guy gets injured that morning and cannot compete? We better not put who is champion until the match starts because what if they trip going down the entrance ramp or getting into the ring and cannot compete. We go based on what the card is billed as, plain and simple. -  Galatz Talk  13:14, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No, you base it on the facts as they stand, where a match is announced there is enough doubt, your straw man argument is the only ridiculous thing here. You also (inconveniently) forgot to address the inconsistency of marking some champions in position and no others.  Finally "We go based on what the card is billed as, plain and simple", nowhere had those matches been billed as being for the championship so you are contradicting yourself now.  Hackerjack (talk) 09:24, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Now that WrestleMania week is over, I think we should fill in A.J. Styles as WWE Champion, Jinder Mahal as WWE United States Champion, and Cedric Alexander as WWE Cruiserweight Champion, all vs. TBD? The table says "Card subject to change" at the bottom, so any (rather unlikely) title changes in the interim are covered by that disclaimer. 129.62.150.4 (talk) 07:43, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What does WrestleMania have to do with it? Any they not allowed to have a title match between now and then? Until they are specifically advertised as defending the title it shouldn't be added. -  Galatz Talk  11:23, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Backlash 2018
Since Miz brought up Backlash just there, I think it might be time to make the official page and do Rollins/Miz since he said he’s invoking his rematch clause then. KingOfTheRing (talk) 01:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2018
Please place at the top of this page, as WWE is, for the first time, hosting two "Royal Rumble" pay-per-view events in one year. A distinguishing notice has already been placed on the Royal Rumble (2018) article. 2A02:C7F:8E0C:6600:8D77:6306:7584:BCD6 (talk) 02:34, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Not done, I understand it being on the top of the Royal Rumble itself page, but no one would come here looking for that, the January event has never been referred to as greatest. And if someone was looking for a particular royal rumble that they thought was the greatest, it wouldn't necessarily be 2018. -  Galatz Talk  02:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Is someone else going to address the controversy? This reads like a giant advertisement with very little real information about this being an event sponsored by one of the most oppressive countries in the world! The description at the top should include reference to the fact that women are not allowed to compete, and that any women attending the event must have a male guardian with them! It is appalling that this is not a key part of the description of this event!

"The event will broadcast on the WWE Network in the United States and Australia"?
So only WWE Network subscribers in US and AUS get this event? If not, this desperately needs rewording. 2A02:C7F:8E0C:6600:A566:C6AC:D189:E660 (talk) 09:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I have updated this per source -  Galatz Talk  14:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Khali and Rey Mysterio
I’ve seen a poster in the group chat I’m a part of, the poster shows the usual guys that were announced for the Greatest Royal Rumble but there you see Mysterio and The Great Khali. Are we going to add them because I have the image saved. Kingoftheworldb (talk) 09:38, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There have been plenty of previous events that have someone in a poster that don't appear at the event. -  Galatz Talk  11:18, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Tag team eliminator
The article currently gives contradicting information. The storylines section calls Bray & Matt Hardy the winners of the Tag Team eliminator, while the bracket section and the match listing calls their match against The Bar the "tournament final". Both can't be true. Either they already won the tournament by beating Revivial in the finals or they have yet only won the seminfinal and will meet the Bar in the finals. Which is?

Given Kurt Angle's original announcment and the strange format the brackets currently have, I'm tending to go with the former option: The tournament, won by Bray & Matt is now finished. As winners of the tournament, they are facing The Bar. Str1977 (talk) 17:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No comments here but another editor has already changed the matching listing from "tournament final" to "tag team match". If nobody objects I will change the match brackets to a simple four team format, with Wyatt/Hardy winning the finals. Str1977 (talk) 05:10, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

LGBT and Women in WWE
Dear people, Please stop adding such contents or anything that could resulted in hate speech against WWE and Saudia Arabia, please STOP THIS and stop using WIKIPEDIA FOR THAT THING. Stop boycotting it, this event is just look alike WrestleMania 29 where there are no women's matches. CK (talk) 18:00, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * What Wikipedia is not -  Galatz Talk  18:02, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

RE: Thanks! for responding. You see, I tried to removing some of trivias that may result in HATE SPEECH and INSULTING after reading the article. Now tell me what do you say on this? CK (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not censored. That means just because you think it might result in hate speech, that has nothing to do with inclusion. If its properly sourced and relevant, it should stay. -  Galatz Talk  18:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2018
Another Controversy was that Sami Zayn was not in the Greatest Royal Rumble match in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Sami is of Syrian descent and started the #SamiForSyria mobile clinic in Syria last summer. Saudi Arabia and Syria cut off relations in 2012. Sami did make mention of being in the match on RAW this past Monday night when he said that the the event was called "The Greatest Royal Rumble" because Kevin Owens and himself were going to win the Rumble match, although later the segment above was shot where Sami said he wasn't feeling well and hinted that he wouldn't be able to go to Saudi Arabia. 115.69.246.66 (talk) 13:15, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Nici  Vampire  Heart  17:44, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Titus O'Neil!!
Is this article not going to talk about Titus O'Neil's epic and hilarious trip where he bit the dust and slid below the apron?? It's the most hilarious RR moment in years!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:9622:3EE3:0:0:2801:F8A1 (talk) 17:27, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Sami Zayn Controversy
I feel there should be a section in controversies talking about not allowing Sami Zayn to compete, despite being advertised, because of his ethnicity. This is a seriously messed up situation and should definitely be included in my opinion. Info came out from WOR, but maybe needs more sources than just that? AM Woody (talk) 12:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So far you have provided zero. Feel free to link to a WP:RS you want included. -  Galatz Talk  02:30, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I mean Wikipedia always uses Wrestling Observer as a source so even though I think they're pretty unreliable, it should still be applied to this. --Solitude6nv5 (talk) 19:30, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it was added at one point, but seems to have been removed. I can't be arsed to check through the revision history but I agree it should be added back. --Solitude6nv5 (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you have a reliable source to support your feelings? -  Galatz Talk  19:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2021
The order for the rumble is wrong as Daniel Bryan appears twices as the 1st entry and 43rd 2A00:23C8:A402:AD00:1D80:FF28:4773:1759 (talk) 20:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:47, 26 July 2021 (UTC)