Talk:Green Park tube station

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Many jubilee line trains were wrongly led from green park all the way to charing cross station. the train was evacuated of the train and platform (which is still intact, complete with wall furnishings, the roof however has been removed) and up the four locked escalators to get out of the station. the passengers had to continue their journey by bus. Green park still oerated till the trains stopped then the train will be released from charing cross to neasden to get checked (or stratford market).

Can't make sense of this. It looks like it's been translated from another language using Babel Fish. Will remove it in a week or so unless anyone want to rearrange it.

--Finton Stack


 * I think it refers to the incident when a southbound Jubilee accepted a wrong route indication at Green Park Junction and found itself in the platform at Charing Cross. I have memories of reading about this in Underground News a while back. As far as I know there's only been one such incident, at least with a train in service. It's more Jubilee Line stuff than Green Park stuff anyway. As far as getting the train checked is concerned, 1996 stock is presumably cleared for the CX route, but it's possible that the train had to be worked back out under an engineering possession that night. --Mpk 09:03, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Jubille to Piccadily transformation
If you ever notice when you are walking inbetween the Jubilee to the Piccadily line then notice the tiles on the wall. When you get off the tube at either Jubilee or Picadilly you will notice the the tiles of the tube are the same colour of the tube you just departed from. The more you walk along the tunnel to the opposite tube the more the tiles will change to the colour of the other tube station. i.e - Get of the tube at Jubilee and all the tiles are grey. The more you walk along the tubes start combining blue to grey. When you arrive at the Piccadilly end then you will notice all the tiles are now blue! It is amazing as you do not notice it unless you are told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keryn45 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

1985 and 1987 escalator fires
According to the report into the 1987 Kings Cross Fire, there were two escalator fires at this station, the first on the 25th of January 1985 and the second on the 12th of June 1987 both involving the number 3 escalator. I am currently trying to locate the incident reports as these both exposed organisational issues within the London Underground system that had not been put right by the time of the Kings Cross fire.

If anyone else can find supporting documentation please feel free to add. Graham1973 (talk) 11:59, 16 August 2014‎ (UTC)

Wolmar
[Copied from SV talk] Hi, you Green Park tube station with a failed verification tag. Could you clarify what you feel was unverified.

The text the citation was supporting was "Tunnelling began in 1902 shortly before the B&PCR was merged with the Great Northern and Strand Railway to create the Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway (GNP&BR, the predecessor of the Piccadilly line)".

The text cited on page 181 of Wolmar says:

"... Yerkes's joint proposal melding the various sections of the Great Northern and Brompton schemes into what became the Piccadilly ... was given the go ahead by Parliament in August 1902. Various other rival proposal for parts of that route failed to get Parliamentary approval, leaving Yerkes a clear field. Indeed, so confident was he of victory that the work had already started at Knightsbridge the previous month, before the formality of Parliamentary approval."

Here the "Great Northern and Brompton schemes" are the Great Northern and Strand Railway and the B&PCR respectively. The parliamentary approval to allow the the merger was in August 1902 and the tunnelling started in July.--DavidCane (talk) 20:14, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi David, the text supported by Wolmar 2005, p. 181, is:


 * "While the various rival schemes were unsuccessful in obtaining parliamentary approval, the B&PCR was also unsuccessful in raising the funds needed to construct its line. It was not until after the B&PCR had been taken over by the Underground Electric Railways Company of London that the money became available. Tunnelling began in 1902 shortly before the B&PCR was merged with the Great Northern and Strand Railway to create the Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway (GNP&BR, the predecessor of the Piccadilly line)."


 * I don't see how it supports the first two sentences. Regarding the third sentence, I can see that it supports most of it. Does it support "Great Northern and Strand Railway [became] the Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway"? Apologies if I'm not reading it thoroughly. SarahSV (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Understood. Thanks.


 * The source was only intended to cite the last sentence; however, the part of the first sentence before the comma is supported by the Wolmar excerpt ("various other...clear field"). Wolmar is using familiar terms which he introduces a few pages earlier, so the merger of the GN&SR and the B&PCR is covered by "melding the various sections of the Great Northern and Brompton schemes into what became the Piccadilly". "Piccadilly" being short for "Great Northern, Piccadilly and Brompton Railway" (aka the "Piccadilly Tube") and now just the Piccadilly line. Nevertheless, I have provided clearer cites for this and the rest.--DavidCane (talk) 22:47, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * , thanks. I see you've added a short cite for Day and Reed 2010, but it needs a long cite too. SarahSV (talk) 22:56, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Just done.--DavidCane (talk) 23:09, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't have access to the new source, so I'll take your word for it and remove the tag. Thanks for the prompt responses. SarahSV (talk) 23:30, 25 October 2018 (UTC)