Talk:Green Wing Special

Alternate ending:
I have created a section for the alternate ending, for when it comes out. I wont be able to get it asap, so could someone please fill that in if you get the dvd? Thanks a lot Shealer 10:22, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I've added the alternative ending section. ISD 10:14, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

GA review
Apologies, but I have failed the article for the time being. I do not feel that the production section is interesting or comprehensive enough and also, the plot synopsis is considerably long. I understand that it may be a complicated plot with many storylines, but I think it could be shortened. If you feel that I am wrong in my review, feel free to ask for a second opinion or resubmit the article. -- Scorpion0422 02:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Second GA review
I have taken on Green Wing Special for review under the Good Article criteria, as nominated on the Good article candidates page by ISD. You'll be pleased to hear that the article meets none of the quick-fail criteria, so I will shortly be conducting an in-depth review and will post the results below.

Where an article is not an outright pass, but requires relatively minor additional work to be brought up to GA standard, I will normally place it on hold - meaning that editors have around a week to address any issues raised. As a precaution to prevent failure by default should this occur, if editors are likely to be unavailable over the next ten days or so, feel free to leave a message on my talk page so we can arrange a more convenient time for review. Regards, EyeSerene TALK 11:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold
I have now reviewed this article under the six Good article criteria, and have commented in detail on each criterion below:

1 Well written FAIL

1.1 Prose

This is the main area that needs attention; the sections of the article dealing with the plot itself could do with a thorough copyedit (mostly for grammar). I have not picked out any specific examples though, because copyediting would need to take account of the comments in the next section below.

1.2 Manual of Style

A few issues here:


 * The lead should be a summary of, not an introduction to, the article. It ought to be able to stand as a mini-article in its own right (per WP:LEAD), and should include all the major points raised in the main article. I'd recommend a sentence or two covering each section.


 * Plot summary: relating to the Prose issues mentioned in 1.1 above, this is over-long and much of it is written from an in-universe perspective. This is always difficult to avoid with plot summaries, but there is guidance on WP:WAF and WP:EPISODE which may be useful. Specifically, there should be no more than ten words per minute of screen time (so for a 45 min episode, no more than 450 words).


 * Section headings: avoid "The...", and don't capitalise every word per WP:HEAD (ie change The funeral to Funeral; The Admin Girls to Admin girls etc).


 * Although not really a GA requirement, it is recommended that references are formatted using the templates on WP:CITET - this makes it easier to include the relevant information and helps with automated tracking (for example, bots can then handle problems like web-links to dead pages and ISBN conversion).

2 Factual accuracy FAIL

The entire Plotlines section is unreferenced. Really the minimum required for any article is one cite per paragraph (preferably at the end) with additional cites where needed. I'm aware that there are problems inherent in referencing plot summaries, but there are templates on WP:CITET that allow for this (eg ).

3 Coverage PASS

The subject is covered broadly, and in appropriate depth.

4 Neutrality PASS

The tone of the article is neutral and no evidence of bias is present. The criticism section is balanced in its approach.

5 Stability PASS

The article history contains no evidence of recent major changes or edit-warring.

6 Images PASS

Although Fair Use is never ideal, the image is appropriately tagged and captioned, and a detailed FUR has been supplied.

As a result of the above concerns I have placed the article on hold. This gives editors up to a week to address the issues raised (although in some circumstances the hold period can be briefly extended). To help with tracking, editors may like to strike through each comment as it is dealt with, or use the template ✅ after each comment.

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or are ready for a re-review. In any case I'll check back here in seven days (around the 14th of October). All the best, EyeSerene TALK 11:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

GA pass
Congratulations on an excellent copyedit on the suggestions provided. I have now passed Green Wing Special as a Good Article, and listed it as such on the Good Articles page under Social sciences and society > Television and journalism > Television episodes. For the record, ISD gets the credit for the editing to achieve this GA pass.

Excellent work - well done! EyeSerene TALK 14:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Whilst/While overuse
I was replacing occurences of "whilst" with "while", because "whilst" is deprecated even in the UK (see While Re: style guides of major publications). Then I noticed that a lot of these "whilsts" were being used in place of "although", which, although understandable, isn't quite correct. Certaintly confirms my theory that those who use "whilst" will go out of their way to use it, though. --63.25.21.29 22:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (Pass)
This article has been reviewed as part of WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, M ASEM 07:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

'Season 3, episode 1'?
Shouldn't this be part of series 2? From what I've heard, it would have been episode 9 of series 2, until it got taken out. No-genius (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * As far as I know, it is seperate from series two. ISD (talk) 07:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)