Talk:Green card/Archive 3

marriage
if an american marries a foreinger. how long does it take the foreigner to get a green card? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.109.229.205 (talk) 22:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC) Forever if the spouse is of the same sex, 1 to 6 months otherwise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.225.190.203 (talk) 03:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

One doesn't get a green card through marriage. First you must receive a CR-1 visa, which takes 3 months. The visa is valid for 6 months entry to the USA and serves as a temporary green card. The actual Permanent Resident card may take weeks or months to arrive. Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:50, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

2010 sample card
Is that for rea了？ who would leave the country "Utopia" for the USA haha — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.81.170 (talk) 00:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Protection
This article states nothing concerning the law when a US resident is wanted for some infraction of the law in other country (be it civil or criminal). It is obvious that a resident has to abide by all the laws in the country in which he resides. But do those laws also "protect" him when another country starts judicial proceedings against him? I am inclined to say "no" in case it involves felonies. But what if it is a civil crime? What if, for instance, a person took out a loan in another country and then became a US resident? The laws of which state would apply to that person then? If it came to a law suit, what would happen? Would a US judge say that a resident had to be tried according to US law? Would a US resident be tried by a US judge when challenged by the other country? Would a US judge extradite this person? Would a US judge even convict this person? 67.8.55.66 (talk) 15:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Permanent Residents must be crime free and abide by all laws. This includes foreign laws. Why would the US allow a foreigner in, so they can commit international crimes, and protect them? lol Don't you know it is out culture to be civilized and follow the Laws? If one commits a crime in the US or in any other nation, they will lose their Permanent Residency and not be allowed back. Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:47, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Two urgent questions
First of all: How many per cent of all German applycants of the diversity lottery won a Green Card?

Secondly:

Do I pass the following requirement if I am a (West-European citizen) who has a Green Card:

Current passport or other travel documents enabling the bearer to freely exit and re-enter the U.S. (multiple reentry status) and be legally eligible to work in the U.S. (possess proper working documents).

Thanks for any help!

Dagadt (talk) 17:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

You have about a 1.5% chance of winning. Since 80% of America has significant German populations, we don't really need more Germans to make us diverse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2001-2005_imm_rate_US.PNG

A work visa does not qualify you for a green card. Unless you have lived here enough years and meet income requirements, etc. However, if you have a green card already, why do you have a working visa and are trying to get a green card? Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:42, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Military Obligation
Can somebody in Sweden tell me about the military obligation under green card program? Ich suche ausdenken on recruitment to fight anti-American forces. If anybody is with the sss.gov, bitte hilfen? Danke schoen! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prittwitz791 (talk • contribs) 02:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, not in Sweden. Though, not sure how a Swede would know this... Anyhow, all permanent residents MUST file for Selective Service if they are 18-25 years old. They may be called to war at any time. Failure to register will result in restrictions on college, credit, arrest, and deportation. www.sss.gov Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Are Permanent Residents accepted to be citizens nationals of the United States?
I am to be sworn in as a United States citizen in a month or two but I was wondering is my country of nationality the United States? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.116.235 (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC) Yes, all citizens are nationals but nor all nationals are citizens ( nationals are those born in US territories who have the right but haven't claimed US citizenship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.225.190.203 (talk) 03:17, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

No. US citizens do not need to be naturalized You also would not need a green card. So you must not be a US Citizen. Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:24, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Double Taxation
Have there actually been any known cases of anyone having IRS problems with low foreign incomes, or is this in practice de facto limited to the wealthy? Aadieu (talk) 15:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, generally, immigrants to America usually do not have foreign incomes, since they are in the USA. Working abroad can be considered giving up your residency.

In any case, the current non-taxable income cap is about $90,000 annually. So one has to be making, in my opinion, a significant amount of money abroad to be taxed.

Also, many nations have tax agreements with the USA. So if you are already paying taxes in one nation, you do not have to pay to the US Government. Unggoydiyos (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

My assessment
Per WikiProject United States Public Policy/Assessment/EdJohnston I was asked to give my own evaluation of this article. I was surprised to see a fairly high-quality how-to article, but am concerned that it could be less than complete as a page in the domain of the WikiProject United States Public Policy. The references are quite thorough for how-to purposes, in that they cover many of the practical concerns of anyone applying for permanent residence in the United States. But:
 * 1) I saw hardly any references that I would consider to be secondary sources. Surely some law professors would have written survey articles in this area, commenting on immigration policy and standards.
 * 2) Wouldn't we expect to see work by academics comparing permanent residence rules in the USA with those of some other countries?
 * 3) Immigration is a political football, but there is hardly any coverage of that here. The political background behind the various acts of Congress that led to the current policy on permanent residence could be reviewed. If the politics is covered in other articles, links to those articles might be provided.

Two specific factual points:
 * 1) The ages where people need to register with the Selective Service System are 18 through 25 according to that article, not 18 through 26.
 * 2) The definition of 'non-retrogressed' should be given; otherwise that is a puzzling technical term. EdJohnston (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I was also asked to review the article (see here). One thing that really stood out is that the article is about permanent residence, but the opening sentence introduces the article as if it's only about the permanent residence card itself. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Country of Birth or Nationality in the Machine-Readable Zone?
According to ICAO document 9303 part 3 vol 1, the second line of MRZ of a travel document (td1 format) should contain the nationality of the holder, not his/her birth country. However, this article states that on the Green Card it is the country of birth. If it is, could it be construed as a violation of ICAO rules on travel documents? Is the country of citizenship mentioned on the Green Card anywhere? 129.210.16.87 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC).

Citizenship is indeed NOT mentioned on the Green Card. Interesting...

Edit- It is possible the 3 digit country code on the reverse may be the nationality. It does not specify. On the front, it is place of birth. Unless they are assuming one was born in a nation and never left. However, the very nature of the green card should show that is not always the case. Place of birth and citizenship are indeed two different things.Unggoydiyos (talk) 04:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

indian american citizen
how to be indian american citizen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.215.17.196 (talk) 15:10, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Why is there no CR-1 visa listed?
It is probably the most common way to get a green card... Unggoydiyos (talk) 04:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

F-1 listed as a Green Card type
F-1 visa is a temporary, non-immigrant visa that does not provide a green card. Unggoydiyos (talk) 17:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Chinese student.
A new user has twice added the following, - "There was one special case in 1957 as president Elsenhower approved a Chinese student, Shen Wen Lung 龍繩文to have U.S.permanent resident status.".

But there is no evidence of notability, no context, the person involved does not have an article. Was it unique, what were the reasons, etc. Please address these issues before re-adding. --Dmol (talk) 09:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Move?
Shouldn't this be permanent residency? Residency is a status; residence is a physical place where you live. -- Jprg1966  (talk)  23:26, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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Article introudction
I tried to make the article introduction more readable and give a better understanding of the overall context. There was a lot of strange information like a history of the design of the card, whereas this is an article about residency. The cards are just a document, LPR is a legal status. I also edited the former "path to citizenship" section to a comparison section, and also edited the naturalization information for readability. I think the entire article is worthy of some stylistic attention. I'm glad this article is so well cited. JGorton (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * The introduction states "permanently" twice in the same sentence, and it reiterates the same facts (regarding removal proceedings). I'll work on it, and keep in mind that this article (like all INA-related articles) concern the entire world so it should be written in a way that everyone understands it. When you state "a permanent resident can still be arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and placed into removal proceedings", that implies that the United States is like Nazi Germany, and if the ICE doesn't like the way a certain LPR looks, he or she will be deported, or that LPRs have no constitutional protection. The right way is to say that an LPR must violate the INA for removal proceedings to be triggered. I think the article should be renamed to something like "lawful permanent residents of the United States", also known as green card holders, there are about 13 million of them, and they are permanent residents just like U.S. citizens are. The current name makes no sense because U.S. citizens are also entitled to permanent residence. Thank you.--Libracarol (talk) 14:04, 22 September 2018 (UTC)