Talk:Green consulting

Talk: Green Consulting

I am very new to this, so I will state first that I am looking for all the help I can get! Green Consulting is a new field, so new that when I searched for it on Wikipedia it did not exist. The idea is to help businesses make their operations more green. I want to avoid a COI, so it should be known that I am starting a consulting business in this area. If anyone would like to help, or write it so that I am not creating a conflict, I would be happy to help. This area is so new that it isn't on the map yet, does any one want to help me put it on the chart?

Green Consulting is a sub-field of green building and sustainability. Should I link it in through those entries until the field becomes more noted?

Centennialgreen (talk) 23:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)CentennialGreen


 * Actually, if "the idea is to help businesses make their operations more green," it violates the spirit of Wikipedia, which is not meant to promote advocacy of any kind. If you had said that "the idea is to help people know what is already being done to make business operations more green," then that would have fit Wikipedia's stated mission like a glove.
 * I strongly suspected that the topic already existed in Wikipedia under another name, but I couldn't find it anywhere, even by looking at the portals. I would have been happy to redirect your article to what I would have found, but the problem is that I cannot find a suitable target.
 * Please be aware that, since this field is new, chances are that you cannot, at the moment, write a sourced article on it. But I suspect it won't be long before reliable sources come out, and I bet you yourself might be able to find us one and thus save the article from deletion (which I'm sure will be temporary). --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 03:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I can support the proposed merge, if we get rid of the original research in the process. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 22:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC) I cannot agree that this article advocates. It defines what a green consultant does. It does not say hire one. I wrote the article because it did not exist when I searched for information about green consulting. References are coming, but I am having trouble linking them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Centennialgreen (talk • contribs) 04:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Article problems
It reads as spam, frankly. It is a personal reflection, it isn't based on inline citations so is unverifiable, it contains mostly opinion and original research, and it fails to establish this as separate from Environmental consulting. Fences &amp;  Windows  03:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Green Consulting is a new sub-field within sustainability consulting. I am waiting for permission to use data from the Green Business League for support, this should answer the verifiability problems. Also, can you define "inline citations"? Centennialgreen (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)Centennial Green —Preceding unsigned comment added by Centennialgreen (talk • contribs) 17:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, using Wikipedia jargon. See Citations.
 * When you say "I am waiting for permission to use data from the Green Business League for support, this should answer the verifiability problems", that sets an alarm bell ringing. Why do you need permission to use this data? How is the data verifiable - we'll need it to be published in a reliable source if we are going to use it.
 * I really feel that we can cover this idea of consulting about sustainability and eco-friendliness within Environmental consulting. The old use of that term was to adhere to environmental regulations, but it is now used for the eco side too. I know that Google hits are not a brilliant measure, but "Environmental consulting" gets 1.1 million, and "Green consulting" only 58,000, many of those false positives due to hits like "Doug Green consulting". A tighter search adding on AND (ecology OR ecological OR sustainable OR sustainability OR "environmentally friendly") gives 172,000 vs 18,000. For news hits it is 1480:83. Fences  &amp;  Windows  02:56, 8 July 2009 (UTC)