Talk:Green economy/Archive 1

Victoria, Australia

 * Victorian Government's "Fact Sheet: The Green Economy"

"The Green Paper sets out fi ve priorities for Victorian Government action. As we transition towards a “green economy”.."

United States of America

 * David Biello "A "Green" New Deal: Is environmental improvement the key to economic recovery?"

"The plan is to create at least five million "green" jobs to replace those lost in manufacturing and elsewhere—from installers of solar panels to sorters at recycling plants...That's exactly what the entire globe needs, according to a new report from the United Nations Environmental Programme. A global green new deal would lower fossil-fuel dependence and energy costs as well as create new jobs, among other things .. according to economist Edward Barbier .. we might rebound from an economic crisis precisely by avoiding environmental ones: energy insecurity, water scarcity and, of course, climate change.

Bruceanthro (talk) 04:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

People / Politics
Jill Stein uses this term she is running on Green Party US presidential elections 2012. She already has a wiki page. I think this may be part of the Green Party Platform. (Frederika Eilers (talk) 17:31, 10 September 2012 (UTC)) 10 Sept 2012

A lot of related portals.
Just saying. 75.195.219.57 (talk) 22:04, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * And projects Jonpatterns (talk) 11:53, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

References need trimming
By my count, 17 publications from Miriam Kennet in the Reference section and not one citation in the text. This needs work. Moreover, most are missing publication details too. Regards, Robbiemorrison (talk) 20:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree this needs attention. Thinksome (talk) 21:22, 28 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The worst sections are "Green" economists and economics and Other issue. I've graded this a C as there is a reasonable amount of information and some citations. Jonpatterns (talk) 15:34, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

While green economics redirects to this page it must have some mention of the theory involved
Unless green economics is restored to the more general treatment of talk:green economics or redirected to ecological economics (possibly a more neutral term for the same thing, except for all the people who think their economics is "greener" for some ideological reason or other), we are going to have to deal with the green economics redirect properly within this article. Text so far for that is inadequate, only two paragraphs giving a bare minimum summary of what someone who knows economics or accounting is going to expect and understand about the "green". Maybe a mention of contributors including say "Miriam Kennet, Volker Heinemann, Murray Bookchin, Lewis Mumford,, Rachel Carson, Brian Tokar, E. F. Schumacher, Robert Costanza" (very important, see Trucost and TEEB which follow his methodology), "Lynn Margulis, David Korten, Buckminster Fuller, Herman Daly, Donella Meadows, Paul Hawken, Amory Lovins, Hunter Lovins, Kirkpatrick Sale, Jane Jacobs, and Robin Hanson" would help.

Green Economics is the study of Green Economies so the redirect is justified. Green Economic Theory should have its own section and be expanded upon. Mkevlar (talk) 15:57, 13 December 2014

Dr. Lange's comment on this article
Dr. Lange has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

"This quote from the initial section

"A feature distinguishing it from prior economic regimes is the direct valuation of natural capital and ecological services as having economic value"

is contradictory to the third paragraph of the "Green economists and economics" section.

In general, I would disagree with the argument that green economics is different than traditional/previous economic regimes but I don't think this is settled in the literature/science."

We hope Wikipedians on this talk page can take advantage of these comments and improve the quality of the article accordingly.

Dr. Lange has published scholarly research which seems to be relevant to this Wikipedia article:


 * Reference 1: Lange, Ian & Moro, Mirko & Traynor, Laura, 2012. "Green Hypocrisy?: Environmental Attitudes and Residential Space Heating Expenditure," Stirling Economics Discussion Papers 2012-12, University of Stirling, Division of Economics.


 * Reference 2: Corrado Di Maria & Ian A. Lange & Edwin van der Werf, 2012. "Should we be Worried about the Green Paradox? Announcement Effects of the Acid Rain Program," CESifo Working Paper Series 3829, CESifo Group Munich.


 * Reference 3: Andreas Lange & Claudia Schwirplies & Andreas Ziegler, 2014. "On the interrelation between carbon offsetting and other voluntary climate protection activities: Theory and empirical evidence," MAGKS Papers on Economics 201447, Philipps-Universitat Marburg, Faculty of Business Administration and Economics, Department of Economics (Volkswirtschaftliche Abteilung).

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Dr. Ghisetti's comment on this article
Dr. Ghisetti has reviewed this Wikipedia page, and provided us with the following comments to improve its quality:

"1) The period after "the harm or neglects an asset" and before "Green sticker and ecolable" miss a crucial connection. I suggest to add the following period "For a green economy transition to be achieved a decoupling between environmental pressures and economic growth is required ( LINK to the "decopuling page")". ... "For a decopuling to be reached both production and consumption should become sustainable, as suggested by the the European Commission Sustainable Consumption and Production and Sustainable Industrial Policy (SCP/SIP) Action Plan presented in July 2008. Technological change is crucial in this framework (Popp at al. 2010), as environmental technological change can lead to win-win situations in which improvements in environmental quality are combined with economic growth (EEA, 2014). From the "production side" the invention, adoption and diffusion of environmental innovations, or eco-innovation is crucial (Barbieri et al. 2016, Ghisetti and Pontoni, 2015). From the "consumption side" an increasing role is attributed to eco-labelling, to increase consumers awareness on the green content of the goods and services they buy." AND HERE IT CAN BE LINKED TO THE PERIOD ALREADY THERE

2) Explicit reference to the concept of circular economy as an extension for the green economy transition can be needed. To this respect I suggest to refer to the last EEA report "Circular Economy in Europe", 2016, available here http://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/circular-economy-in-europe. In particular the launch of the Circular Economy package in December 2015 seeks to explicitly boost European competitiveness through new business opportunities and innovative and ‘circular’ means of production and consumption. for this reason I believe it is crucial to mention it when dealing with "green Economy".

3) in "Definition Section" I suggest to add a broader expanation on the concept of green economy. Figure 1.1 at page 5 of the EEA report "Towards a green economy in Europe" (available here http://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/towards-a-green-economy-in-europe) can be very precious

A page on ECO-INNOVATION or ENVIRONMENTAL INNOVATION is suggested.

References:

Barbieri, N., Ghisetti, C., Gilli, M., Marin, G., & Nicolli, F. (2016). A Survey of the Literature on Environmental Innovation Based on Main Path Analysis. Journal of Economic Surveys, 30(3), 596-623.

EEA (2014) Resource-efficient green economy and EUpolicies. EEA ReportNo 2/2014. European Environment Agency, Copenhagen.

Ghisetti, C. and Pontoni, F. (2015) Investigating policy and R&D effects on environmental innovation: a meta-analysis. Ecological Economics 118: 57–66.

Popp, D., Newell, R. G. and Jaffe, A. B. (2010) Energy, the environment, and technological change. Handbook of the Economics of Innovation 2: 873–937."

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We believe Dr. Ghisetti has expertise on the topic of this article, since he has published relevant scholarly research:


 * Reference : Nicolo Barbieri & Claudia Ghisetti & Marianna Gilli & Giovanni Marin & Francesco Nicolli, 2015. "A Survey of the Literature on Environmental Innovation Based on Main Path Analysis," SEEDS Working Papers 0715, SEEDS, Sustainability Environmental Economics and Dynamics Studies, revised Apr 2015.

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