Talk:Greeting card/Archives/2014

List of companies selling Greeting cards
Please add to this section only companies notable enough to have their own Wikipedia articles. That means no external and no redlinks. Shinhan 17:07, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Shinhan - I think I understand your comment about external links and redlinks, however, how can a simple list not include a broader list of companies? If a company has to be publically traded or historically significant in order to have a listing and therefore appear in the list, do all editors work for large/publically traded companies? Not sure I understand the logic.


 * Well, a larger list might be appropriate for List of Greeting Card Sellers or something similar, but this article is not meant to contain a large list of companies. 3-4 names are enough to provide casual reader with examples of notable companies, and by allowing only companies with articles he can stay on wikipedia to read about them. Point is this article is about the Greeting Cards and NOT about companies that sell or manufacture those, and while small number of example companies is appropriate, large number would detract from the point of this article.
 * Most of the Wikipedia editors do not write about companies they are employed in, as it would be considered conflict of interest. Also, purpose of Wikipedia is NOT to help people in their shopping, but to EDUCATE them. Wikipedia is Encyclopedia and it aims to describe every topic possible. It does not aim to be a shopping guide or to provide contact details to all the companies in the world (on whichewer product) or many other things, as can be evidenced in WP:NOT. There is still google you know. Also, you might want to read up on what wikipedia is on Five pillars
 * (btw, you might want to sign your posts with ~ ) Shinhan 05:45, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Shinhan, I disagree with you on the topic of allowing smaller companies to contribute external links to the list of greeting card companies. I do agree with you, however, regarding Wikipedia's encyclopedic status.  Wikipedia is notable in that it is the first encyclopedia that allows its users to expand on the depth and bredth of its topics.  Limiting the greeting card list to large companies also limits the information that is available to the general public, which is exactly the opposite of Wikipedia's goal. User: Carybny.
 * If you read core content policy What Wikipedia is not, you will notice that one of Wikipedia's policies is that "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information." Hallmark and American Greetings are notable and verifiable (in that there is a large amount of published material substantiating their existence and importance to the American economy), but most greeting card companies are not. I suggest you familiarize yourself with those policies.  Editors who persistently refuse to conform their edits to the core content policies have an unfortunate tendency to find themselves banned by the Arbitration Committee.  --Coolcaesar 01:39, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

From your comment it is implied that only Hallmark and American Greetings are of a size to make them worthy of inclusion. I do not believe this is correct (they may be the current large ones in America … what about the rest of the world?). Go back many years into the 1800’s and you will find another set of important companies who I believe should be relevant to this page (eg Marcus Ward, Goodall ... plus many more). They may even been more important than Hallmark and American Greetings as they are the ones that started and created the whole mass produced greeting card industry. In general this page on greeting cards is very limited and only seems to focus on current greeting cards. I have added a small section on the history of greeting cards … I am sure others can add a lot more to this.--Kgcolector 11:25, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The list of external links to greeting card companies was inappropriate and I should have had the guts to removed them all myself rather than just the obvious dead and spam links. You could make a compelling case for Hallmark Cards and Recycled Paper Greetings because of their significant contributions to card history, but they also have their own wikipedia pages and their external links belong on their own pages, not here. This is not a search engine rank tool.


 * I agree; the links were bad and removing them was the correct action. [User:Kgbarrett|KeithBarrett]] (talk) 17:05, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Are you supposed to keep them forever...
Or throw them out?
 * You might want to try the Wikipedia reference desk (run a Google search against wikipedia.org to find it). I'm sure there's some obscure etiquette rule somewhere covering them.  --Coolcaesar 07:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Hello World !!!! From USA

Merging?
There is another article, on Cardmaking, mentioned in the "See also" section. In my opinion, it should be merged. It was up for deletion at one point, and from the archived discussion, it seems like this page didn't exist at that point. Anyone else think so? --Praesentius 00:31, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

tone problems
Maybe I'm old-school, but much of this article reads like an advertisement. 24.10.30.21 (talk) 03:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

History???
How about a little history? Where did the practice of giving cards come from? Who sent the first card? 69.248.65.105 05:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I have added a small amount of history about greeting cards as I agree this is important to understanding greeting cards. This is such a wide and importaant subject but such a limited view of it in this article. --Kgcolector 11:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

History needs to be updated. The history talks about all the inventions that influenced greeting cards since the 1400's and nothing is said about the internet? A lot has changed since 1980. I tried to add something but it got deleted. That's cool, all I'm saying is that something needs to be said about the invention of the internet and how it changed the history of greeting cards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EagleinATL (talk • contribs) 20:31, 25 April 2014 (UTC)