Talk:Gregorios of Parumala

From Parumala Seminary
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 * St. Gregorios is known for his love and devotion for the Throne of St. Peter's at Antioch, the headquarters of the Universal Syrian Christian. In his formative years, before becoming a bishop, he was serving the then Patriarch of Antioch as HH (??) Secretary. His in-depth knowedge of the Syrian liturgy, and devotion to his superior brought this young priest as the youngest bishop ever anointed in the history of Malankara Syrian Church. The disorganised Malankara Church was administered by an Archdeacon, and the faithful were not happy with the administration.


 * While the Head of the Church visited this land towards the end of 19th Century, HH called a Synod at Mulathuruthy in the year 1875, and in it the Malankara Church was divided into 6 provinces (Bhadrasanams). The southern provinces of Niranam, Thumpamon and Kollam was assigned to the youngest Bishop Mar Gregorios. These areas were mostly disturbed by the Reformists group, and the Syrian Orthodox Church was supposed to be exinct in these places, but the hard work of this young bishop acted as a catalyst and it prevented further erosion of (Orthodox?) Syrian Christian(s) towards the Reformist group, and thus saved the Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church from extinction.


 * HG (HH or HG?) acted as a social reformer, and started a number of educational institutions, where irrespective of caste and creed anybody could receive an education. HG selected a place called Parumala near Mannar in Niranam, where St. Thomas the Apostle of India started a Church in the first century (fact or legend?), and started a Seminary to teach the budding priests, who will have to lead the faithfuls in true faith.

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The title of the article is very long. Why cant it just be Mor Gregorios of Parumala or even just Gregorios of Parumala. Those are simpler and easier to understand. ܠܝܛܘ Liju  ലിജു לג&quot;ו (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * With apologies for coming in four years later, I agree with the above. WP:COMMONNAME applies and it seems likely that Gregorios of Parumala is the correct title. Please note that official names do not trump common names here. - Sitush (talk) 07:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Gregorios of Parumala is a definitely a good option. But we need to consider the fact that he is commonly known as Parumala Thirumeni. Varkeymanavalan (talk) 10:13, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Any more thoughts on this? Geevarghese Mar Gregorios is another option. What seems clear to me is that the of Parumala is redundant in the sense that there is no other person called Geevarghese Mar Gregorios. - Sitush (talk) 10:12, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Sourcing
At present, we only have one source and I'm not convinced of its reliability. For example, it names Peter III as the Antioch in 1876, which I have over-ridden in the article because it is clearly wrong. It also says that Gregorios died on 12 November but the photo of his tomb clearly states 2 November. Since the article already said the latter, I've left it as such for now.

We really need reliable academic books for articles such as this, not dodgy websites. - Sitush (talk) 11:54, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

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 * Photo of Saint Geevarghese Mar Gregorios from 1906 Travancore State Manual.jpg

Canonization
It has been claimed by an IP user that the Syriac Orthodox Church does not have a canonization process, and so has cast doubt on the declarations in this article. I have removed some of the claims pending verification by WP:RS. Elizium23 (talk) 05:55, 2 November 2020 (UTC)