Talk:Griffon Bruxellois

cleanup tag
I added the tag because I think this article has too much jargon from the kennel club manual. It left me kind of disoriented.- Dmz5 *Edits**Talk* 20:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm no expert on dogs at all, but isn't that a pug in the main picture at the top? User:Damndirtyape
 * I do believe that is a Griffon in the top picture, however I do agree that it isn't a very good one. I will try and upload a better one soon.  I've got a ton of them lying around the house somewhere. User:Dan9186  —The preceding  signed but undated.


 * I did a very little editing but I agree it needs more. Did anyone check whether this was an exact copy of one of the breed standards? If so, it can be stripped out and summarized instead. Elf | Talk 05:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

There are several grammatical problems in this article that need fixing, but I'm not exactly sure of the intent.

First paragraph: Identical in standard except for coat and colour differences, in some standards they are considered varieties of the same breed. That's an overloading of the word 'standard'. Who treats them identically, and who treats them as varieties of the same breed? Who are the authorities for this? And is it Wikipedia standard to use British spellings ("colour")?

In Birthing: It can get leg and heart problems from an early age.  At the very least, it should say 'They' instead of 'It', but I'm not sure what the intent is. Any dog can get leg and heart problems from an early age. Are Griffons particularly susceptible? Some breeds are prone to hip dysplasia. Is that what you're trying to say? If so, then it should say something like "Griffons are somewhat prone to early leg and heart problems."

In Cleft Palate: Most have Huge eyes that you have to watch out for and check regularly with your vet. First, that sentence has nothing to do with cleft palate. I suspect it was intended for the Eyes section that followed. Second, an article like this should not use second person ("you have to watch"). Third, why would you have to watch out for huge eyes? Did you mean something like "Griffons have disproportionally large eyes for their size, and that makes them more susceptible to certain eye problems"?

In Eyes: instead of "Glaucoma can be a common problem", it should be "Glaucoma is a common problem". ANYTHING can be a common problem.

In Heat Stroke: We have another instance of second person: let them in your house. It should be something more impersonal, like "They must have access to cool air and ice cold water."

In History: The breed has never been numerous or popular, but had a brief vogue in the late 1950s, and now is generally an uncommon breed. That sentence does not scan properly; the "but/and" structure leads one to expect the final clause to be supported by the second one, rather than in contrast to it. Perhaps "The breed has never been numerous or popular. Despite a brief vogue in the late 1950s, it is now generally an uncommon breed."

Timrprobocom (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Does the picture of "A Griffon puppy" add any value to this article? Seems more like a vanity addition.Labvet (talk) 10:54, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Petit Brabançon
It is not a pug, it's a Petit Brabançon. But It is definitely NOT the correct photo for a Griffon Bruxellois. This should be changed immediately. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.129.93.75 (talk) 21:46, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I have finally found one of the pictures I've taken of a Brussels Griffon and scanned it. It is there now. I have removed the photo request and have removed the cleanup tag on the article now that this is in place. ~ Dan9186 22:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

The United Kennel Club and the Fédération Cynologique Internationale both see the Petit Brabançon as separate from the Brussels Griffon/Griffon Bruxellois; I don't think that is really clear in the article.--Hafwyn (talk) 07:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the Petit Brabançon as separate from the Brussels Griffon. There should be a separate article for the Petit Brabançon.

Bruxellois Bruxellois, quoi la zut est un griffon!?! VIVE LE BRUXELLOIS BRUXELLOIS BRUXELLOIS GRIFFON!!!
Griffon sur le dessus d'un cheval? Pourquoi parlez-vous dans une teelle énigme, Bruxellois? Ne comprenez-vous pas que je suis simple d'esprit? Vive le Griffon de Bruxelles! (Griffon Le Bruxellois meurt à un âge avancé d dix-quinze)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.241.238.85 (talk) 20:22, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Citation
Hi there. I noticed references 1-8, 14 are missing citation information such as date of retrieval, source, and author. Please correct, thanks! --Vivian079 (talk) 18:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)