Talk:Grognard

Looks like I fail at citing references. :\ Hopefully a helpful wikignome will be along shortly to rescue this stub from my stupidity!

The article I wanted to cite is the French wikipedia, here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grognard --S Marshall (talk) 17:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * We cannot cite Wikipedia itself as a source (See Reliable source examples). Though if the French Wikipedia cites sources, we can use those same sources...
 * Also, this page was previously deleted after being moved to Wiktionary (grognard). Unless there is enough material to create a full article, I'd suggest turning this page into a soft-redirect to the Wiktionary page (using wi). -- Quiddity (talk) 21:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think there might be enough material in "grognard" to make a reasonably encyclopaedic article. I was going to go on and explore "grognard" as a pop-culture meme and mention its appearance in wikipedia awards.
 * Unfortunately, the French wikipedia doesn't give any sources. -- It isn't controversial that "grogner" means "to grumble", any French-English dictionary will tell you that, but here's a reference for the sake of completeness: http://www.wordreference.com/fren/grogner ; and here's the equally uncontroversial definition of "grognard":  http://www.wordreference.com/fren/grognard -- I'm just somehow too pathetic to get the wikipedia syntax right when I try to cite them as references. :( --S Marshall (talk) 22:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Aha! So simple... --S Marshall (talk) 23:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

We used this term in 1979 to describe a table-top miniatures player that made sound effects for his miniatures when moving them (tank noises for armor, clopping noises for cavalry). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.151.12.8 (talk) 17:20, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Old version (subpage link)
I last edited this article back in May of '07, and there was quite a lot more on it back then than there is now in the Wiktionary article. I'm re-posting my draft of the article from back then to /May 2007 in the hopes that some of the information from it can be worked into the current article. I will note that, although the meaning remains the same in the most general sense, specific usages vary. I'm not quite sure how to describe that. --CrazyDreamer (talk) 04:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)