Talk:Groove Music/Archives/2015

Previously Zune Music
It should be noted that Xbox Music is from Zune Music. The only article that addresses Zune Music is Zune Software so I don't think we need to merge any articles. Does anybody think this article should mention the Zune Music history or just address that it's formally Zune Music? Sources:  ♫  Douglasr007  ( talk )  21:09, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I agree, in the Windows folder it's named Microsoft.zunemusic and not Xbox, so it's not a different service but the SAME under a different name, thus it would be relevant to include it in the article. --86.81.201.94 (talk) 14:21, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

30 million songs is not correct
It's actually just 18 million songs. Source: http://www.xbox.com/de-DE/music http://www.xbox.com/en-ca/Music?xr=shellnav — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.255.130.110 (talk) 19:34, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi. I can see that in http://www.xbox.com/en-US/music too. Looks like we have two conflicting sources, both from Microsoft. Which one should we choose? Or, any other idea? Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:36, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's 18M in the US; globally it's 30M. http://gizmodo.com/5951705/xbox-music-hands-on-the-perfect-music-serviceif-you-use-nothing-but-microsoft-stuff

I think the 18 million one is correct since this covers all three major labels. It's what most services offer. Where would they get another 12 million tracks from? 2003:45:CB05:BF00:B1FF:F585:48F:664A (talk) 20:38, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Logo vs. computer icon
Recently, replaced Xbox Music's computer icon with a logo and wordmark. I reverted because of WP:NFCC and WP:NFCC. Here is a more detailed why:

The computer icon clear gives more information than the logo. The logo is not specific to Xbox Music; it is the Xbox logo with "Xbox Music" word written near it. As such, it is a decorative thing, used to promote Xbox brand. WP:NFC #17 says use of such logos are inappropriate. (There has been similar discussion about the generic Windows logos in WP:NFCR, in which administrator Masem used his admin power to override me and enforce WP:NFC. Only back then, there was no version-specific Windows logos.) Such non-free contents can be explained with words alone. (Of course it is nothing to explain, because what a reader is supposed to do with it?) The computer icon, on the other hand, is an important method of recognizing Xbox Music app in Windows. When this computer icon is seen (alone or with text), it represents a computer program that can be run.

Fleet Command (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

The name is Groove, not Groove Music
Source: http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/6/8902079/microsoft-groove-music-features

"Microsoft mistakenly referred to Groove as Groove Music in its announcement. The company says it's simply Groove and is working to correct its mistake. This article has been updated to reflect the correct name."

Features section
You keep removing the features section, meanwhile other articles have sections with equal levels of details such as Google Play Music, Spotify, and Amazon Music, in fact this is one of the only articles where the feature section has little to no details. --LyThienDao1984 (talk) 01:27, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Name
Microsoft lists the name as Groove Music in several sources, a name that has been repeated by several news sites:


 * WinBeta
 * WMPowerUser
 * Gotta Be Mobile
 * This is XBOX
 * Inferse

Also note that the image used on all news sites (even the one that don't call it Groove Music) use the image that reads "Welcome to Groove Music", so I suggest renaming the page. --Hoang the Hoangest (talk) 01:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Also here is the official site, which also refers to it as Groove Music.
 * --Hoang the Hoangest (talk) 01:09, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Daylen (talk) 19:29, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Translation into French
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Daylen (talk) 22:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Confusing names.
Although the name Groove Music appears in various Microsoft websites, Windows 10, and Windows 10 Mobile, for some reason many sources and Microsoft itself simply use the term "Groove" and to make matters even more confusing the new Google Play application is called "Microsoft Groove" I don't suggest a rename, but it's clear that the naming can be confusing so I suggest that we could put alternative names in the entry in the future. --1.55.1.190 (talk) 07:40, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Groove Vs. Groove Music Vs. Microsoft Groove
In the Windows Store Microsoft lists the application as "Groove Music" and not as "Groove" as you can see here, and in Google Play it's listed as Microsoft Groove. --Hoang the Hoangest (talk) 01:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi.
 * A strange thing about the Microsoft Store website is that even though it says "Groove Music" on the site, the app that it represents does not, i.e. the App's title is not "Groove Music". I recently had a minor edit dispute with ; from that, it seems Microsoft website has recently made several blunders like this.


 * I also added a source in the article to the effect that "Groove Music" is a mistake; the source is bearing a Microsoft confession of mistake and issuing errata.
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * How is the history of MSN Music and of Zune music being closed considered highly biased and inappropriate? Are facts inappropriate?  If anything in that edit was untrue or inaccurate, I'd like to hear it so the fact that Microsoft has shut down two previous services can be included in the history.  It's important if there is a history section.  If you're going to have a history section then tell the true history; otherwise delete the history and talk about Groove on its own.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.19.193.177 (talk) 17:04, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Eh?
 * On my WIn 10 Start menu it is "Groove Music" on the tile.
 * If I hover my cursor over the icon on the task bar it pops up with "Groove Music"
 * The screenshot in this article has a window title of, guess what? That's right! Groove Music!
 * Chaosdruid (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * On my menu, it is "Music". No "Groove" anywhere. Also in Microsoft Store website the screenshot shows "Music" in the title bar. But I won't be surprised if an update has made it "Groove Music"; it could be the kind of mistake that justify themselves because the "correct" form is no more meaningfully correct. Perhaps I should let my Windows 10 run an update.


 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 10:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Is it possible u were running the beta (well, delta/epsilon) and then upgraded? Chaosdruid (talk) 21:13, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I think you'll like what I have to say. Although tests confirms that the app that comes stock with build 10240 is indeed "Music", the latest version of the app that is currently in Windows Store is called "Groove Music". Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 14:20, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sweet! Nicely found - I love it when we get to the bottom of things, these little victories sort of make it all worthwhile :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 23:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
 * To see what comes stock with Windows 10, one needs to install it with Internet disconnected, because Windows 10 updates itself before, during and after setup. Fleet Command (talk) 01:05, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Groove Music
Why is the article titled Groove Music? That doesn't exist. Groove exists.  WikIan - ( talk )  10:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See the posts above. Fleet Command (talk) 14:08, 17 September 2015 (UTC)