Talk:Grosstarock

German Tarock and Grosstarock
I have added the earliest German Tarock rules which Dummett would not count as Grosstarock because there is no Stichfrei contract; however, more recent scholarship by Martin suggests that Grosstarock was distinguished more by the role of the Pagat ultimo than by a null game; he would therefore count these early rules as a form of Grosstarock. I will tidy up the history to reflect the latest position. Bermicourt (talk) 21:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for expanding this article. There should be a companion article on Mitigati, which is the only other surviving classical tarot game. If you're not interested, I will have to create it but I'm busy as of late.--Countakeshi (talk) 11:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries. I'm switching focus this week to research and write up a couple of articles about Karnöffel, so I won't have as much time to devote to Wikipedia. I'm not averse to putting something together on Mitigati, but I'm no expert on Italian games and speak no Italian, whereas I can read the German originals. Would it be worth creating as a stub to get it off the ground? Bermicourt (talk) 19:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)