Talk:Grotle

Hoax?
So if it's not a hoax and yet doesn't get a SINGLE Google hit, how is it that YOU know about it? --Calton | Talk 07:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * And come to think of it, where did you get that picture, then? --Calton | Talk 07:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/hayashigame.jpg DanPMK 11:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Jim Dandy, a screen capture from a fan website -- and God knows what page -- that has somehow escaped the Mighty Google Spiders, since "Hayashigame" still pulls up the magic goose egg -- as does the kana combination "ハヤシガメ".

So back to my original, simple question: what is the source of your information? Harder question: is it a reliable source? --Calton | Talk 13:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The video-games are a reliable source I'd say. DanPMK 19:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * What video games? What are you talking about? What is the source of your information? Is it an actual, bonafide, citable reliable source? Why HAVEN'T you cited ANY sources, despite repeated requests? --Calton | Talk 22:18, 27 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Diamond and Pearl. I can't show proof myself because it'd be original research. Google D/P info, man.
 * Icons: http://pokeguide.filb.de/icons.php & http://serebii.net/diamondpearl/newpokes.shtml
 * Base stats: http://www.legendarypokemon.net/dp/pokemon
 * Ingame screenshots by various people, found on, for example, serebii.net.
 * I understand being sceptical, but Gooooooooogle DanPMK 02:40, 28 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you missed the TWO references I made to Gooooooooooooogling and getting a big fat goose egg, and your own edit summary offering an excuse for the zero Google hits.
 * I'm sorry, but if you can't verify this from reliable sources, this doesn't belong here, since this is an encylopedia, not a rumor central. Come up with verifable references (and I'll note that the article has no references of any kind, good or bad), or this is going to AFD. --Calton | Talk 04:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I was refering to searching for D/P info, not a name released such a short time ago; although it should be noted that Googling the name doesn't get 0 hits anymore, since the information is coming about. Reliable sources will come out tomorrow, and many sites will have this info. And for the record, while the original screenshot, indeed, the one we got the sprite from was initially unreliable, Serebii and many others have confirmed it as true; they have copies themselves. I'd refer you to a ROM if it were legal. DanPMK 06:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Where are the sources?
For the FIFTH time, what are the sources for all the factoids being piled into this article? You've got until close of business today or I'm putting this thing up for WP:AFD, where you can make your case for rumor-mongering substituting for verification and reliable sources. --Calton | Talk 01:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Google can't come up with EVERYTHING. And just because YOU don't think that this IS real, it doesn't automatically mean it's a hoax. Serebii.net is not known for putting up hoaxes. Blue MirageSMOOOORG!!! 02:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, any Wikipedian with a legal copy of the game can prove this isn't a hoax. Blue MirageSMOOOORG!!! 02:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Google can't come up with EVERYTHING So what? The point is, you haven't come up with ANYTHING. You have no reliable sources. None. Zip. Zero. Nada. Nil. Goose egg. For all anyone knows, this is some fever dream.


 * Serebii.net is not known for putting up hoaxes. As far as I'm concerned, Serebii.net isn't known for anything whatsoever. Hence the whole "reliable sources" insistence.


 * Also, any Wikipedian with a legal copy of the game can prove this isn't a hoax. Assuming such a thing exists, which, again, no one has offered the slightest evidence for?


 * So, for the SIXTH time, what are your sources? --Calton | Talk 06:31, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you would like to scroll up and read the page? DanPMK 20:06, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Grotle
That is its english name, and here is the proof. http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/n07_0319_dpcard017lg.jpg Look closely at the "evolves from" part.Feats-O-Strength 00:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)