Talk:Grotto of Our Lady of Lourdes, Notre Dame

Change the name
Hey! When I created this page, I used the name Grotto of Our Lady of Lourdes, because it was unused. Yet, I was considering changing it to reflect the fact that it is the ND one, sine there are many replicas and the original one in France with the same name. I see it referenced as "Notre Dame Grotto" or "Grotto at Notre Dame", but I think the title should also contain the reference to Our Lady of Lourdess. So I came up with some proposals. Ideas? Eccekevin (talk) 02:02, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Grotto of Our Lady of Lordes, Notre Dame
 * Grotto of Our Lady of Lordes, University of Notre Dame
 * Grotto of Our Lady of Lordes (Notre Dame)
 * Grotto of Our Lady of Lordes (University of Notre Dame)
 * Notre Dame Grotto of Our Lady of Lordes

Article lede / lead paragraph
@Red-tailed hawk I think the first sentence or at least the first paragraph has to clarify the location of the University of Notre Dame. Not everyone will know it's in the United States (even though it is very famous) – in this case it's extra confusing since the original grotto was in France. (Side note: Stubs aren't allowed to run on the main page/DYK, so in future please get the article rated beforehand. Might be worth adding more relevant WikiProjects above as well.) Thanks! Cielquiparle (talk) 05:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Does the location being listed in the infobox work to reduce that confusion? The reason I omitted it from the first paragraph of the lead is that it makes the prose fairly clunky. I can see if I can try to work it into the later paragraphs of the lead to include the information whilst not clunking up the phrasing. —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:29, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. or maybe second paragraph, French Holy Cross priest who founded...in the United States. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:53, 6 February 2023 (UTC)