Talk:Group of 15/Archives/2013

Iran
Unfortunately the map does not show Iran as a member.Please correct this problem.
 * Yes, it does. Look again. --Mocu 18:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Delete "leaders" templates
Template:Group of 15 Leaders has two companions -- Template:G-15 nations and Template:G-15 leaders. Their formats are similar, but I think we need only one of them. The nations template will be added to each of the G-15 summit articles; however, I believe the neither of the leaders templates are helpful.

The edit history for Group of 15 here shows that posted Template:Group of 15 Leaders. The template's history shows that WikiReformist created it.
 * Context

WikReformist has been banned, but I know nothing of those circumstances.


 * Proposed deletions
 * A. Template:G-15 leaders
 * B. Template:Group of 15 Leaders

This is a poor subject for a navbox because leaders change irregularly over the course of time. Updates are better handled in the table which part of this article.

For me, the crowded nature of Template:Group of 15 Leaders made it a little difficult to scan quickly. Also, v•d•e at the left of the title bar is non-functioning.

As an exercise, I resolved to fix the readability problem; and then to seek consensus for deleting both the original and the improved templates. Is there any objection to this deletion plan? --Tenmei (talk) 01:21, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Navbox consensus
There are plausible reasons for modifying the navbox templates at the bottom of the page at Group of 15 (G-15). An opportunity for discussion needs to be part of any process which precedes change. Three arguable improvements are:

A. Expanding the current navbox by encompassing links to articles about the serial G-15 summits?
 * template name could be G-15&mdash;Template:G-15?
 * new template would be similar to APEC&mdash;Template:Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation
 * this would mean removing or redirecting G-15 nations&mdash;Template:G-15 nations?

B. Deleting the current leaders navbox?
 * This is a poor subject for a navbox because leaders change irregularly over time. The functional utility of this navbox is not greater or better than one which only shows member nations.
 * this would mean removing Group of 15 Leaders&mdash;Template:Group of 15 Leaders?

C.Standardize/harmonize to "G-15" without hyphen?
 * Only G-15 must have a hyphen, consistent with the group's official web site?

D. Perhaps decision-making may be helped by comparing an array of similar groups and templates?


 * 21 in group> Template:APEC?
 * Template:Current APEC Leaders?
 * 18 in group> Template:G-15 nations?
 * Template:Group of 15 Leaders?
 * 8 in group> Template:D8 nations?
 * 4 in group>Template:BRIC countries?
 * Template:Current BRIC Leaders?
 * Template:BRIC summits?
 * 3 in group>Template:Trilateral meeting?
 * 2 in group> Template:G-3?
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * 3 in group>Template:Trilateral meeting?
 * 2 in group> Template:G-3?
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5
 * No navboxes yet> G77•G33•G24•G10•G5


 * 20 in group> Template:G20?
 * Template:Current G20 Leaders?
 * Template:G-20 leaders' summits?
 * 9 in group> Template:G8 nations?
 * Template:Current G8 Leaders?
 * Template:G8-Foreign?
 * Template:G8-Finance?
 * Template:G8-Defense?
 * Template:G8-Justice?
 * Template:G8-Interior?
 * Template:G8 summits?
 * Template:G8-Interior?
 * Template:G8 summits?

What is the best next step for this article? for similar articles? --Tenmei (talk) 01:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The templates were deleted; and the discussion threads were archived:
 * Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 June 1#Template:Group of 15 Leaders
 * Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 June 1#Template:G-15 leaders
 * This will be useful if further discussion is necessary. --Tenmei (talk) 20:51, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Peruvian membership
Just checked the G-15 website and it does NOT list Peru as a member state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.196.42.60 (talk) 18:24, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Peru isn't a member state anymore, I changed what I could but I can't change the info-bar on the top-right, or at least I cant find the edit button. If somebody with this ability could come along and fix this, that would be great. Otherwise, tell me how and I can do it myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.83.185.60 (talk) 10:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)