Talk:Group of forces in battle with the counterrevolution in the South of Russia

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Capitalization of the title
Why is “south” capitalized? The title is in lowercase or sentence case, except for this. If it is a proper name, then it should be in title case. If it is not, then this common adjective should be lowercased, as south of Russia is not a proper name.

What is the source of this name anyway? There is nothing directly cited, and I don’t recall ever seeing it elsewhere. —Michael Z. 08:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 23 March 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: merge to Ukrainian–Soviet War. This is a rare closure of an RM, but WP:XFD lists this as a valid outcome, so... (closed by non-admin page mover) { {ping&#124;ClydeFranklin }} (t/c) 01:54, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Group of forces in battle with the counterrevolution in the South of Russia → ? – This article title is unwieldly, but I don't know of a good name for this "military unit". Should be moved somewhere though. Natg 19 (talk) 18:27, 23 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 08:51, 30 March 2023 (UTC)  — Relisting. { {ping&#124;ClydeFranklin }} (t/c) 15:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is a direct translation of the unit's Russian name, so I don't see why it matters if it's "unwieldy". What I'm concerned with here is the capitalization. Does this follow the manual of style for Russian? 〜 Festucalex  •  talk  05:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Translation of a proper name is normally in title case. But merely a descriptive title would be in sentence case. These are general practices, not specific to Russian. —Michael Z. 14:48, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Change. Does this title appear in even a single source (a quick look at Google books results is inconclusive). What do sources call it? Something like Southern Group of Forces (Russia) seems much more in line with titling guidelines. —Michael Z. 14:46, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * merge this into Ukrainian-Soviet War it doesn't have any inline cations and is somehow longer than the two RS in the refs that are specifically about this—blindlynx 16:06, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge I suspect this "title" is the translation of a descriptive title in another encyclopedia, rather than an actual name that the army would have recognized. Much of the article is an (unsourced) order of battle that should probably be jettisoned.  The rest would be better merged to Ukrainian–Soviet War. Walt Yoder (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.