Talk:Guadalcanal


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the debate was move. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 11:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Guadalcanal (Pacific Ocean island) → Guadalcanal – Guadalcanal currently redirects to Guadalcanal (Pacific Ocean island), the main article should be the one without the parentheses

Voting

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 * Support Bletch 21:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. The current name is ridiculous, but the real issue here is Use common names&mdash;it's nice that the island was named after a town in Spain, but the island is far more important from a global standpoint&mdash;just make sure the disambiguation at Guadalcanal (disambiguation) is maintained properly.  Tom e rtalk  01:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Support. It is a waste of the reader's time and WP bandwidth to pass primary disambiguation thru a redir. 'Common names' applies. 24.17.48.241 19:31, 2 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Various edit changes described.
This article had various problems, including much uncited material, and some language that was like an essay. Generally the article needs far more in-text citations. I've listed some changes and remaining problems:

1) Saying something is "mainly jungle" needs expansion. Considerable parts are open areas, and some areas are under cultivation.

2) This sentence doesn't explain what Guadalcanal means. "Rainfall here is very heavy, hence its name."

3) "Other deadly jungle animals writhe there, as well." is just fluff. Many animals are dangerous. Wikipedia is not a travel brochure.

4) "If you would walk through the kunai, you would be cut all over." No. Published sources indicate it's possible to be cut, not that it's certain someone would be cut all over.

5) It might be nice to explain why the airfield was renamed from the name given it by the army that defended it, took it way from the Japanese, and gave it back to the natives.

6) "An informative account of the Marine Corps campaign, which began on August 7, 1942, can be found in the historical novel, "Every Shape, Every Shadow" (Pale Horse Books)." There's no reason why this book in particular should be mentioned. It's not considered definitive in any sense I know.

7) Movies weren't "written" about Guadalcanal. The word is "made". Naming the movies would be good.

8) Linking dates and months is contrary to Manual of Style, unless article is specifically talking about historical periods.

9) Why is a Coast Guard person mentioned for having earned for their heroism on the island, but no one else?

10) I don't know what the issue are with Gwale and "migrants", but all statements such as this need third-party, independent sources to avoid sounding biased. "long-simmering tensions" is just more peacock language. Does it make a difference whether the tensions were for a month or for two hundred years? If so, explain why.

In general, the editors of this article would be well-advised to read the Encyclopedia Britannica for an hour, and adopt the tone and content. Wiki, is, after all, an encyclopedia.

67.169.127.22 (talk) 12:27, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

This page says: The name comes from Arabic Wādî al-Khānāt, meaning "Valley of the Stalls", from refreshment stalls which were set up there during Muslim rule in Andalusia.

The page that it links to for "Guadalcanal, Seville" says: The name etymology comes from Arab Wad al-Qanal (وادي القنال), "river of the canal or channel"

I do not know which is the most accurate, but the contradiction should be resolved and one of the pages or both should be corrected.

Thanks. 96.240.60.247 (talk) 17:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Slight contradiction with Guadalcanal, Seville page
This page says: The name comes from Arabic Wādî al-Khānāt, meaning "Valley of the Stalls", from refreshment stalls which were set up there during Muslim rule in Andalusia.

The page that it links to for "Guadalcanal" says: The name etymology comes from Arab Wad al-Qanal (وادي القنال), "river of the canal or channel"

I do not know which is the most accurate, but the contradiction should be resolved and one of the pages or both should be corrected.

Thanks. 96.240.60.247 (talk) 17:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I had always heard that it originated from 'Wadi-al-Canar'. But I could never find out what that meant. David Tombe (talk) 14:53, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

If it did come from Wadi-al-Canar, then did the name Guadalcanal evolve separately in Spain and the Solomon Islands. David Tombe (talk) 14:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Quality check
This article reads like its been written by a "Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault" or "The Pacific" fan. E.g., the "Fauna" section describes animals and insects "known to Marines". The entire text needs an overview and cleanup! --MoRsE (talk) 09:44, 24 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Morse, While I can see your point, I can assure you that there are not that many interesting animals on Guadalcanal. And for anybody venturing into the jungle, the only two problems that they are likely to incur are malaria and the stinging insects. That is of course apart from other problems such as dehydration, starvation and sun stroke etc.


 * Guadalcanal is most famous to the outside world because of the second world war. I'm not a WW2 veteran but I have been in that jungle and I know about those centipedes. I also know from the James Michener books that the US Marines called them the 'stinging insects', and so I thought that it would make interesting reading to mention that point of curiosity in the fauna section. If you disagree, feel free to remove the comment about the stinging insects. David Tombe (talk) 07:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Population?
The article could use more info about this. Who are these 110,000 people who live there? Was the island that populated during the WWII battles?Sylvain1972 (talk) 02:22, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, I am unclear as to where these people came from. The history section only states charting by "the West" and doesn't state if there was any indigenous population.