Talk:Gui Minhai

Drunk driving incident:
Why was this chapter removed? It was well cited from mainstream-media. It was removed in an improper way without a serious discussion on the subject. --Daduxing (talk) 14:18, 16 November 2019 (UTC)


 * None of those international citations back up the assertions of the first sentence. The sources for the majority of the text are Chinese state sources which are not appropriate given the context. The passage as written violates WP:BLP and WP:NEUTRAL and as such I have removed it. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 17:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed, the incident is dealt with in its proper context, within the Confirmation of detention section. The claims served as the legal pretext for his illegal abduction, subsequent [illegal] rendition, forced confession and [illegal] detention from his holiday home in Thailand, and this matter does not need to be given prominence above what is due. --  Ohc  ¡digame! 16:51, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

New section needed to focus on the specific things Gui's controversial books

 * I hear a lot about how China gov punished this man. Not so much on why he was hated by the ccp. The information that were in his books are not sufficiently explained in detail. Instead it vaguely been described as "thinly-sourced, tabloid-style political book". It would be a good idea for this article to list more on what were the actual info in his banned books, and its validity. Whether or not his books were smear campaigns or real facts about china.

14.202.177.65 (talk) 15:05, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Frequent use of language like 'abducted'

 * How is this consistent with Wikipedia standards on neutrality and tone? Would being arrested by law enforcement be described as an abduction if it happened in a country this article's most prolific editors held in higher regard? This reads like an op ed condemning China, not an informational summary of a subject of international controversy. And it's not even a good op ed, being rather light in any substantive details. 2602:306:3818:4130:F9FE:698:5422:1A36 (talk) 04:43, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * An arrest is a procedure in a criminal justice system, defined as "the act of apprehending a person and taking them into custody, usually because they have been suspected of committing a crime". Gui disappeared in one country and mysteriously reappeared in another, and even his closest family was not informed as to his whereabouts,. In the opaque justice that is that of the Chinese state, and with agents operating in an extraterritorial of extrajudicial manner, sources use the term almost universally to describe what happened to him. --  Ohc  ¡digame! 16:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)