Talk:Guilden Morden boar/GA1

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Reviewer: Jackyd101 (talk · contribs) 20:57, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, good work on this. I'm not worried about the length, and I AGF on the offline sources. I just have a couple of comments, you're almost there. Well done on the work so far. --Jackyd101 (talk) 19:38, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks ! I've addressed the issues you raised below. Please let me know if that is sufficient, or if I should do more. --Usernameunique (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2017 (UTC)


 * It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS):
 * Not totally sure what you mean by "The boar is part of a line of boar-crested helmets" - do you mean it is similar to other examples?
 * ✅ Reworded: "The boar is part of a number of boar-crested helmets that have been either found in archaeological excavations or seen in artistic depictions."
 * "and compares favorably with the Wollaston helmet boar" - how does it "compare favorably"?
 * ✅ They're not compared in the literature other than to make the point that they're both boar crests. Reworded: "It is "closely paralleled" by the boar atop the Benty Grange helmet, and gains a further parallel in the Wollaston helmet boar."


 * It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * "although a date has not been suggested for the Guilden Morden boar." - The British Museum website gives 6C-7C as the date.
 * ✅ Good point. I think the British Museum is being conservative with the dating, as there is no date suggested in the literature other than to point out that the boar is Anglo-Saxon. Reworded: "a date more specific than the 6th or 7th century AD has not been suggested for the Guilden Morden boar."


 * It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
 * I like the "Boar crests in Beowulf" section, but its feels a little like synthesis - can you make the link between this helmet fragment and the poem more explicit. Have any of the sources actually made this link explicitly?
 * ✅ Two sources make the link explicit (Foster 1977a, Frank 2008), although only in passing; the literature that actually delineates and explicates the parallels between Beowulf and the archaeological evidence tends to use other examples (e.g., the Benty Grange or Sutton Hoo helmets). That's probably why the section feels like synthesis, because it involves two steps: first, the literature which says "hey, the link exists," and second, the literature which says "these are the links." I've reworded the section to place more emphasis on the Guilden Morden boar itself, and to put some of the tangential information into a footnote. Let me know if that resolves the issue, or if I should restructure it further.


 * It is stable.
 * It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
 * a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA):  c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
 * Overall:
 * a Pass/Fail:
 * a Pass/Fail:


 * Excellent work, well done. Passed!--Jackyd101 (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2017 (UTC)