Talk:Guitar Hero/Archive 1

Title
This is purely speculative, so I relegate it to the talk page. I was just listening to the Clash's "Complete Control" and during a Guitar Solo, Joe Strummer shouts out "You're my guitar hero!" -- Epynephrin (talk) 15:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Guitar Hero 3 controller for PlayStation 2 is different to others
I feel that it should be noted that the Guitar Hero 3 controller for PlayStation 2 is a Kramer Striker guitar replica instead of a Gibson Les Paul replica as is the case for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Wii. Given that the Gibson Les Paul and the Kramer Striker are totally different, it should be noted that the controllers are different. (As is not currently the case from first glance) Bananahead 1337 (talk) 11:35, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Getting to a Guitar Hero featured topic
Given that we have presently 3 GAs (GHII, GH80s, GHIII) and can likely get the series (this page) and the first game up to spec, I think we should consider if there's a possibility of making the Guitar Hero article series a featured topic, including the song lists. I am putting the first game's song list article up at peer review to see if there's a possibility of it qualifying as a featured list, which would help to promote the rest of the articles towards a larger featured topic. --M ASEM 17:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've gotten feedback on a peer review for the GH1 song list and it loks like there's potential for this list to go to a Featured List (thus likely for the other song lists). A few things to correct, but otherwise this is a helpful step. --M ASEM  15:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Gibson Patent Challenge
A patent challenge from Gibson Guitar, Inc. was revealed by Activision in March 2008. I cleaned up the section as it existed when I found it. 24.185.110.146 (talk) 03:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Star Power redirect
Star Power should not redirect here. It is far too generic a phrase and can be meant as Star power or StarPower, which both link elsewhere. It's far too ambiguous to point to Guitar Hero. Besides, there are no links to Star Power, so we are pretty thinking anybody who types in "Star Power" into the search box means to come here. Far better to point it to the disambiguation page (Star power) and have them decide at that point what they want to see. Bssc81 (talk) 05:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Be on watch for GH: The Beatles
An exec of the company that owns the rights on the Beatles works has recently stated that he'd like to help bring a Beatles-themed GH game to the market. This is not any validation that the supposeded "Guitar Hero: The Beatles" exists. People have been adding this without any other source, so while the mention of this desire to create one is worthwhile to not, keep an eye out for those adding the game way too prematurely. --M ASEM 22:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Guitar Hero: On Tour
I found a trailer! Here!-- 20:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * At least we now know what the website for the game is. I have added it to the article's external links section. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 20:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * With the trailer, pictures, and more information about the game starting to come about, do you think it's time that it gets its own dedicated article? TeamOverload (talk) 20:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and filled out the article for it (thank you Jeux France for non-watermarked images!), no more redirect. --M ASEM 20:58, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Chords
Notes can be a single note, or composed of two to four notes (a chord).

WHAT

142.162.199.159 (talk) 00:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

In GH3, 'Go that Far' has four note chords in the rythim (misspelled) track.

58.179.120.65 (talk) 10:17, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

A Aerosmith Song for Guitar Hero: IV
http://www.guitarhero-4.com/songs/

this website says there will ba a song by Aerosmtih on GH4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.103 (talk) 22:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That looks more like a wishlist, as opposed to anything legit. --M ASEM 22:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

it is a wishlist Cyclonegoalie01 (talk) 21:53, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

GAN on hold
Leave me a note when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 06:31, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "the 1960s to the present" - "present", not "the present", is fine
 * The first ref in the lead isn't really necessary
 * "earning over $1 billion" - what currency?
 * Please move free images to Commons, if possible
 * "Instead, developing would go to Neversoft" - how was Neversoft chosen?
 * "Billboard announced" - magazine titles go in italcis
 * "r Hero game for the Nintendo DS" - you don't need to wlink the DS every time you mention it
 * "Screenshot of Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock during "Battle Mode"." - other image captions didn't contain wlinks; be consistent
 * "and a rating from three to five stars, depending on his/her overall performance." - you sure it's not from 1 to 5?
 * Check italics for newspapers in ref publishers
 * "Bang Camaro's popularity increased after their song "Push Push (Lady Lightning)" appeared in Guitar Hero II." - any others, or were they the only ones who did so?
 * "and some players complain of problems with latency." - ref?
 * "On 17 March 2008, Gibson sued six retailers — " - you can't have spaces around an em dash (per WP:DASH)...maybe use a semi colon; a dash here isn't that appropriate...
 * "Subsequently, on 21 March 2008, Gibson has also" - remove the "has"
 * "spokesperson has stated " - same again
 * done Gary King (talk) 07:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * On the Bang Camero thing, they're the only indie group to have their popularity improved due to being a GH band that can be sourced; other licensed groups have also been show to have improvements as mentioned around that point. --M ASEM 14:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks for readding it. I didn't know that about them, but your updated wording clarifies this point. Gary King (talk) 19:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, passed, everything looks good here. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 08:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much! Gary King (talk) 08:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Regarding the star ratings, it is not possible to score less than a three star rating in the games. The statement is accurate as written. Just FYI. =) QaeadarDAzeal (talk) 06:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

uh, why would you take the time to note simple grammatical errors instead of just fixing them yourself? On a serious note, some sections are rife with grammatical errors and other qualities not fit for a GA (especially the paragraph about the carabiner). This may be due in large part to changes and contributions since the GA status was applied. However, a lot of editing needs to be done to really get it (back) to GA quality. -Jaardon (talk) 19:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge-in proposal
Please see: Talk:Guitar Hero tapping for discussions. Thanks. §hep  •   ¡Talk to me!  21:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Getting the GA series to an FT
We are close to having enough articles to qualify at a Featured Topic:
 * Guitar Hero (series) : GA
 * Guitar Hero (video game): FA
 * List of songs in Guitar Hero: FL
 * Guitar Hero II: GA
 * List of songs in Guitar Hero II: FL
 * Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s: GA
 * List of songs in Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s: currently at FLC
 * Guitar Hero III: GA
 * List of songs in Guitar Hero III: B-class, but working to get to FLC quality based on other lists
 * Guitar Hero III Mobile: B class
 * Guiter Hero Carabiner: Start class

I am discounting Aerosmith, On Tour, and GH4 for now (explain in a bit). For an FT, you need about 20% or more of the articles at FA/FL (with 80s songlist, that gives us 4 of 11, or about 35%, and I would get GH3's list up to FL before doing an FT, making it 5 of 11 or 45%). We also need each article that can be at GA or FA, and for those that can't (both Mobile and Carabiner), at least performing a peer review. Thus, all we need to do is spiffy up Mobile and Carabener and get those PR'd while I help bring 80s and GH3's lists through FL to get to being a FT.

As for Aerosmith, On Tour, and GH4, I asked the FTC page on this, and they suggested that its fine not to include those, but once the games are out, those articles are expected to get to GA-minimum quality within 3 months of release and then the FT re-evaluated to add them into the topic. We've been doing good on tracking Aerosmith and On Tour's development stuff, so I doubt this will be a problem.

Anyone up for tackling Mobile and Carabiner to get these to spec? --M ASEM 15:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, it would be nice if someone with graphic skillz could make an SVG graphic of the guitar controller (w/ the 5 colored buttons plainly obvious) to go along with it. :) --M ASEM 15:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

GHIV Article created
While it's been a redirect until now, there's enough information coming out now to fairly give a full Guitar Hero IV article, so we should consider if bits and pieces can be moved to there if needed. --M ASEM 00:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Since when was Avenged Sevenfold going to be in GH World Tour?
It says that Avenged Sevenfold is in the list of confirmed bands for GHWT. Since when was this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by KillingIsMyBusiness502 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Should Cultural impact and In popular culture be moved to a new page?
Should the sections Cultural impact and In popular culture be moved to a new page? I think it would be a good time to do it since these sections keep growing with cruft. --8bitJake (talk) 19:19, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we just need to keep the cruft down. There's no major size issues yet with the page, and as long as we keep it to notable appearances as are listed presently (I just did some edits) it should be fine; at worst if there's many more that are added, we can swap out less notable ones (eg, if it's used on multiple talk shows, we can replace the Ellen D. mention with a common phrase). --M ASEM 19:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

About the song lists...
I'm SICK of the way that they're ordered. I say we put them back in setlist order, because it's hard to tell what will be/is where and it's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE to figure which songs are encores. Well, in Guitar Hero: Aerosmith anyways. 17:43, 28 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well I think the lists need to be in alphabetical order to qualify for Featured List. I agree with you however, I'd prefer to see the songs listed in the order that is given to us by the games themselves. --DecimatorQ (talk) 17:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then I suggest adding a link at the bottom of the page that shows the setlist in it's play order. BreakerLOLZ (talk) 02:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


 * All the lists are sortable: there's a little gadget next to each row header that sorts on that column; all the set lists can be discovered this way. --M ASEM 02:33, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Another thing about the song lists...
I think we need per-game lists and a list of every song featured in the series. I believe that the latter would be useful. This can be incorporated into the above suggestion by having the former lists in tier order and the latter list in alphabetical order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.254.57.81 (talk) 23:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

export audio of guitar hero?
hi, i've got some questions about copyrights and more concerning the guitar hero series: since you purchase the game, including the audio tracks, is it forbidden to export/ extract the audio tracks (like only guitar, only bass, only vocals+drums or the whole song) or are you allowed to do that? because you could also just record and save them and you'd have the complete song without purchasing it. maybe it would be cool to be offered guitar hero versions where the songs are included as audio, so you can put it in your cd player or as files on the dvd, which will be of course more expensive but allowing everyone to easily use the audio tracks of the different instruments... it'd also be cool to be given the chance to purchase the audio tracks of the songs at the band's website or wherever... i mean, isn't it obvious that people could record this audio tracks and upload it so others will be able to download it, because you can't purchase or even somehow get the tracks from somewhere? unrealshade 195.14.222.112 (talk) 01:50, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * These questions are inappropriate for Wikipedia. However, it should be noted that there are Guitar Hero packs available at iTunes for purchase. --M ASEM  01:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * i think it is appropriate for wikipedia, because using the audio tracks of the instruments is a very interesting aspect for musicians, who might want to purchase the game in order to hear the instruments seperately and to play the song accurately. at least, wouldn't it be the only way to hear the instruments of songs seperately (since you cannot purchase them seperatley)? thanks for your answer, though. unrealshade 195.14.222.112 (talk) 02:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Talk pages on Wikipedia are meant to be discussing improving the article, not a general forum for the topic of the article. --M ASEM  03:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * thank you, i'm quite aware of that. in my opinion it would improve the article, if it said that you are able to listen to the guitar and bass / rhythm guitar seperately, because it's an interesting aspect for musicians (as explained above). so i think that should be in there. maybe this is one of the reasons why guitar hero is so famous. furthermore it would be good to know if you could export the audio tracks to listen more closely to the audio tracks of the seperate instruments. since i don't know if this is possible or even allowed, i wrote these questions. i wrote that not only for gain of personal knowledge but also to write this aspect in the article. so in the end we will finally be able to do that for the sake of the article's quality. sorry if i didn't point that out clearly enough formerly. if you don't share this opinion with me, feel free to tell me your reason why you think this aspect would not improve the article. unrealshade 213.196.193.199 (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, if it answers your question, you can change the audio options (under Options) in every Guitar Hero game so that you can listen to the guitar track or the "band" track (a combination of rhythm/bass guitar, drums, and vocals) separately while you play that song. If playing practice mode, you can listen to the rhythm/bass guitar track or the "band" track (a combination of lead guitar, drums, and vocals) separately while you play that song. And if playing Co-Op mode, you can listen to both the lead guitar and rhythm/bass guitar track or the "band" track (drums and vocals) separately while you play that song. Note that you will need two players to actually play both tracks if playing Co-Op. And as far as I know, it is possible to replace the audio tracks and note charts in the game with your own in the PlayStation 2 version of Guitar Hero II. I just don't know if it is possible to export them. Either way, I still don't see how exactly will this improve an encyclopedia article. --Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 17:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Guitar Hero MOVIE?
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/28/ratner-i-would-love-to-do-a-guitar-hero-movie/ For the love of God, please tell me this is unreliable. 67.174.162.92 (talk) 06:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it is reliable (or at least, corroborated). This has been mentioned in the Influence section (pending any other news). --M ASEM  12:01, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a fat turd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yesitsnot (talk • contribs) 09:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Guitar Praise: Christian Guitar Hero Clone
Just thought that this should be mentioned: http://store.digitalpraise.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=72 http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/688705/Christian_Guitar_Hero_Clone_Coming.html 67.174.162.92 (talk) 06:38, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Atreyu == does anyone think they should make one? it would be awesome! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.35.158 (talk) 23:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

This is not a discussion forum. BreakerLOLZ (talk) 21:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Scorehero?
I don't know how this would fit in, but shouldn't there be some mention of the website scorehero.com, a website for tracking guitar hero scores that has over 250,000 users?

One of the leaders of Harmonix has donated $2,000 to the site, and members of the site have also been specially invited to beta-test games, and Neversoft/Harmonix both have registered accounts on the site, and regularly post news there.

Here is the thread pertaing to their beta-test og GH3: http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19183

Here is the thread about gh:wt : http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=76943

Also, all of the best guitar hero players use scorehero to track their scores, such as iamchris4life who recently 100%ed Through the Fire and Flames.

Anyways, I think It might go under Public Reaction or something.

216.185.252.80 (talk) 22:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * This might be a good idea, but we need sources independent of scorehero itself to include; that is, we need to show why the site is notable here. (I believe they exist, just a matter of finding them). --M ASEM  01:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Here are some:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3159835

http://www.rockgamer.com/2008/09/10/rockgamer-and-scorehero-at-neversoft-hq-today/

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/09/11/read-scoreheros-impressions-of-guitar-hero-world-tour/

I don't know if those are good enough, I can probably get more if you like.

216.185.252.80 (talk) 17:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Ooops, I didn't note that here, but I did add a section based on the $2000 donation and that they've been invitied to sneak-peak the games. --M ASEM 18:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Over-charted
Shouldn't it be noted that Guitar Hero is over-charted to hell? You play notes that don't exist within the song. That's why Rock Band is "easier," because it doesn't make up notes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.60.226.203 (talk) 22:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know how it would necessarily fit it, but before we could add such a mention, we'd need a reliable source that says this. --M ASEM 22:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

This is only true for Guitar Hero III, and they have not added in extra notes, just overused three note chords and Hammer on's/Pull off's. 129.250.211.6 (talk) 14:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

You might be referring to the notes they throw in to make it more fun. For example, TTFAF had notes that were computer generated and not played on a guitar (particularly during the Synth Death). They just do that to make it more challenging. (Not that it's not hard enough already, but still...) Tubularbells1993 (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

i have read that they did not overchart, but that they have guys who listen to the songs really carefully and pluck every note that they here. that makes it seem overcharted cause you cant casuelly hear all those notes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.103.159 (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

The Name changed
To some who haven't heard, the name was changed to Guitar Hero: World Tour. -anonymous

NOTE: if I did something wrong ('cause this is my first time) just delete this discussion topic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.252.70.2 (talk) 16:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Carabiner
I feel that this has a few issues: First off, I feel that teh Carabiner title should have its own completely rewritten article. It seems rather choppy as it is written on this page. Also, we should source the info on it. Tubularbells1993 (talk) 18:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It did have an article, but that was pretty much all the information that was available for it - there was no review of critique of it. As such, it fits better in the main article. --M ASEM  18:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, but I still feel it should be rewritten or downsized at least a bit and sourced. Also, why is it still hyperlinked when the only place it goes is back to this article? I think I'll change that... Tubularbells1993 (talk) 14:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * To make it fit even better, we can eliminate some of that info because it does not seem to fit the flow of the article. Besides, we can also hyperlink elsewhere where its dimensions can be described. I don't think it should be described here, especially if it can't be sourced.Tubularbells1993 (talk) 14:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * the wording is awful, it feels like someone just copied down a bunch of notes they took off the packaging. -Jaardon (talk) 19:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Instrument pics
Why there are no pictures of the instruments in Guitar Hero 3 and Guitar Hero 4 articles? Is it that someone hasn't uploaded them yet or some other reason? --Mika1h (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

New Template
I belive that it would be good to include a new template titled "instrument games",

It would include the Main series' of the games ex:

GH

GH2

GH3

GH:WT

80s GH

Aerosmith GH

Metallica GH

RB

RB2

Beatles RB

Rock Revolution

Ultimate Band

(Hate to put this) Wii Music

Guitar Rising


 * The categories could be for the devs of the game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.49.62 (talk) 13:44, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Modern hits article
That has enough info to split into its own article by now. All in favor? Tubularbells1993 (talk) 18:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have proof right here. http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/NovaXHD/GuitarHeroScan.jpg 74.67.82.52 (talk) 23:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The image itself is not a reliable or verifiable source, however, it does appear to be a page from a print magazine. If you (or anyone else) can state what the magazine is titled, what page it is found on, who wrote the article on that page, etc., then this would be enough to include it in the series article for now. --Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 03:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

DJ Hero confirmed
The CEO for activision officially announced it. Here's A Source —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estemshorn (talk • contribs) 22:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

GH:GH Confirmed
Guitar Hero: Greatest Hits confirmed. -- TRTX T / C 01:57, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm totally confused... the article (on Wikipedia) says that it will not come out for the PS2, yet the table not only says NO on the PS2 square for teh game but also (paradoxically) points out who will develop the PS2 version. So is it coming out for the PS2 or not? (NOTE: If the link you provided has reference to this, I could not check it because the computer I am using has school-instituted filtering software that blocks access to the article, so as of right now I have not checked.)Tubularbells1993 (talk) 13:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Good point, the announcement does not state PS2, but nor does it state developers (but does confirm 2009). Fixed in table. --M ASEM  14:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

←There is a new article released today, 3/4/09 by ign confirming the PS2 version as well as 8 tracks and much more information. http://ps2.ign.com/articles/959/959442p1.html --stanmarsh
 * There is enough content here to begin a new article for the game. We've got an estimated release period, pricing, a partial setlist, some background into developement, and some features.  This is along with info regarding compatibility with other GH titles. -- TRTX T / C 04:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Guitar Hero 5
i just seen this on the Alter bridge website, that one of their songs is going to be on guitar hero 5.

see here

so if anyone else can find anymore infomation that proofs that there is going to be a guitar hero 5. please do so. Imaguitarhero (talk) 11:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Error 404 - Not Found are you sure? Tubularbells1993 (talk) 12:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge of On tour games
Now that GHOT: Modern Hits has been confirmed by Activision, I am proposing a merge of the On Tour games as described here. Please comment further, thank you. --M ASEM (t) 21:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

page to long
i feel that the series page is too long so im working on moving one section to its own page

P.S. i picked a long one  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NTC TNT (talk • contribs) 18:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Please don't move anything yet. The page is just a bit over the typical limit but not too far out. --M ASEM (t) 18:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


 * i decided that creating a gamplay page was to haRD for me<but y do u keep undoing my edits. i understand to keep dj and carabiner where they r but y the rest NTC TNT (talk) 18:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

GH World Tour PC/Mac
I found this http://www.macworld.com/article/139630/2009/03/guitarheroworldtour.html  This confirms the game's arrival to PC and Macintosh computers. There is another article that says the requirement specs will be the same as the GH3/Aerosmith. However I currently can't seem to find it. --stanmarsh —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanmarsh2003 (talk • contribs) 00:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Inappropriate verb tense
Guys, in the section where it describes similar games and titles, it still says 'will release,' 'will be based on GH gameplay...' etc. But most of those games have already been released! I'll fix it, but why wasn't it fixed before? Tubularbells1993 (talk) 14:50, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Oversaturation
"...milking the brand name..." Sourced, yes, but a little POV, much? Especially since it features no official responses to this criticism? Tubularbells1993 (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)