Talk:Guitar Hero: On Tour (video game)

Song in trailer
Anyone know what song is playing in the Guitar hero: On Tour ad shown on IGN? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.172.173.151 (talk) 22:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comments I've read say it's something from OK Go. But I have no title or confirmation of this. TRTX T / C 19:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

The song played in the trailers (and on the official GH: OT site) is Do What You Want by OK Go. 68.194.16.14 (talk) 22:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Old Style DS peripheral compatibility?
Well, saw the trailer last night, and the first thing I wondered about was wether the peripheral would also properly fit into a 'first-generation' DS. Everything seems to be modeled for the DS Lite nowadays, and the ads only focus on the newer design. So everything concerning the classic DS remains vague. Saphatorael (talk) 10:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Im sure it will fit, the backs of the Lites and original DSs have the same space between them, dont they? Skane (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 15:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The DSLite GBA slot isn't as "deep" as the one in the original (GBA games stick out the bottom of it because of this). If the Grip is designed with the Lite in mind the adaptor will likely be too small for the original DS's GBA slot. TRTX T / C 19:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've been wondering that, too. I hope they design it with a little bit sticking out so that it'll fit in the old DS. That would be the smart thing to do. But enough idle chatter. Someone needs to find something addressing this issue.--Sherwood-Nightshade (talk) 06:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * So far it doesn't look like anybody's had it hands on. The best you could do is try and get something off of a Customer Service forum that's open to the public. TRTX T / C 15:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The official RedOctane store claims "Platform: Nintendo DS (Lite & Original version)". Check it out yourself: http://www.redoctane.com/guitarhero-ontour-ds.html  J. Straub (talk) 17:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * According to this IGN podcast: http://wii.ign.com/articles/865/865441p1.html, there will be an adapter to allow the Grip to be used with the original DS. They seem to be fairly sure of themselves. --Filovirus (talk) 01:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Will said adaptor be included with the whole $49.99 package?--Sherwood-Nightshade (talk) 15:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The gamespot preview (per soundtrack) suggests the same thing, that it's something in the package you just take off for using on old-style DS. --M ASEM 19:00, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Official press release available
Kotaku has the press release. It may be worth going through there to update some of the references to a more official source. TRTX T / C 19:41, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Four frets, not five?
Any indication as to why the design is different from the standard Guitar Hero five-fret configuration? 69.143.240.243 (talk) 16:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * To press the fifth fret, a player would need to move their hand up or down the unit. This doesn't translate to a handheld, where the player only has one hand supporting the unit (the other is going to be strumming on the touch screen.  The fifth buton is impractical for this reason. TRTX T / C 04:40, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, there's a place on the back to slip your hand in, so you would be able to move your hand freely up and down like so. However, an extra fret would obscure the headphone jack or the volume control. - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

major question
will this even work with a left hander at all?

from what i can see, to do that it must be fastened to the right hand so the left hand can strum the touch screen, but i cannot see this happening. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murakumo-Elite (talk • contribs) 06:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily an appropriate question, but the quick answer is it is likely to be, flip the entire unit (DS and grip) 180, hold in right, strum with left. Other "vertical" DS games do that same trick for left/right switches. --M ASEM  06:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * In that case, it better not have a "lefty flip" powerup thing for versus play. --Sherwood-Nightshade (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

maybe it will have that in options, like guitar hero III71.53.20.131 (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * On you character screen (pretty sure its that) u can choose a lefty flip thing to reverse it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.127.219 (talk) 01:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

"Reference" section needed
I made some changes today to turn an external link into a reference, however I noticed that none of the existing references (sa well as the one I added) are actually appearing on the page. I'm currently trying to find the propre wiki-markup to generate the reference list, so if anybody knows how to auto-generate one it's needed at the moment. TRTX T / C 12:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"Breed"
I've seen this edit a few times. Most recently an editor used the "NFC" as a source. I found the site here and did a quick scan. Here's the "confirmation": The upcoming Guitar Hero: On Tour by Activision will be made available for the portable console Nintendo DS. According to Activision, this latest version of Guitar Hero offers up the most diverse selection of songs, including selections by artists like Nirvana, OK Go and No Doubt.

Story courtesy of Gearlog.

NFC will soon publish an article dealing the games, movies and TV shows that Nirvana's music has been licensed for in recent years.

Update: The NFC can exclusively reveal that the Nirvana track included in Guitar Hero: On Tour for Nintendo DS is the Nevermind classic Breed. There is no link, press release, or source given...except that they can exclusively reveal it. I have been unable to confirm this anywhere else that doesn't just point back to either Wiki or this story. -- TRTX T / C 00:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

On Tour Bundle - Worth mentioning?
I know other GH and RB articles have discussed bundles, and I saw this article on Joystiq this afternoon. Is this something worth mentioning in the article? And if so, where is it included? -- TRTX T / C 18:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Free play?
Does anyone know if it'll have a free play mode? I just lost teh game (talk) 10:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Promotion
Also, if you pre-order it at some stores, they have a free 'exclusive' Guitar Hero: On Tour pick stylus. I got mine at Best Buy. It comes in a regular DS game case. Ladder4321 (talk) 00:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

only 15% covers, and fat free!
http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=885&page=2 tells us which songs are covers, 85% are the original master recordings apparently (!) 199.214.26.41 (talk) 19:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Like an advertisement
I think this article is written like an advertisement so I tagged it with Template:advert. I do realise it is hard to have criticism besides all the marketing information when a game is not released, but the whole article seems to applaud the game and only shows criticism when it can be refuted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DWizzy (talk • contribs) 08:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You cannot write a reception section until there are reviews from others to write a reception section about. This the is the approach that all unreleased games are written in.  Also, this is very far from what would normally be considered as a ad-style article that that template implies. --M ASEM  12:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Time to split?
The game comes out soon, and it looks like we've got the full setlist. Is it time to split off into List of songs in Guitar Hero: On Tour? It currently redirects to the songlist on this article. -- TRTX T / C 15:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Confirmation for Battle Items?
I cleaned-up the piece about these, however while reading them I'm starting to get a bit skeptical. Especially the ones that supposedly "switch the top and bottom screen" as well as those that "make the highway move slower" for the opponent. One seems to make the game impossible (you can't strum if your guitar's on the top screen). And the other isn't a disadvantage at all (at least not the way I understand battle mode as it is in GHIII). I gave it a fact tag and left it that for now. -- TRTX T / C 14:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * When you switch screens you still strum on the touch screen. And it is hyperspeed, not slower speed.64.252.73.130 (talk) 01:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)w0o0o

Reminder: need free picture of Grip
I'm going to try to do this myself (I have both a DS and DS Lite) but we need to get a not non-free pic of the Grip to replace the current one, one we take ourselves once we have the game. Once the game's out tomorrow, we should be able to do that. --M ASEM 19:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I Own the Game, and Europe is not in it
The final song is "I Know a Little" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.79.5 (talk) 17:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Criticism Section
I think there should be a criticism/controversy section added in the near future, because of the large amount of complaints circulating on the internet about the quality of the peripheral, soundtrack quality, hand cramps from playing the game on Expert, and the overall broken touch screen mechanic that can potentially destroy the DS touch screen. A bunch of complaints can be found in various threads here. Doshindude (talk) 20:52, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Forum posts are not reliable. However, if these lead to a response by Activision or VV, then we can add it. --M ASEM  20:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Find links to reviews from major outlets (IGN, Gamespot, Kotaku, Joystiq). I believe those would be considered viable places to source for criticism, provided it's referenced in multiple reviews. -- TRTX T / C 12:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As you can see, there is already reviews stating these problems, so these facts will get into place in this article. --M ASEM 04:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Bonus Songs
Scorehero confirming there is at least one bonus song, I Am Not Your Gameboy by Freezepop, and possibly more, unlocked by beating guitar duels. I added the song to the list a picture is here...

http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=67126 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syphon8 (talk • contribs) 04:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Bonus songs

Successfully complete the indicated task to unlock the corresponding song:

Crazy Train: Get a "5 Star" rank on all difficulties of "I Don't Want To Stop". Dani California: Get a "5 Star" rank on all difficulties of "Knock Me Down". I Am Not Your Gameboy: Successfully complete all songs in Guitar Duel mode. Master of Puppets: Create a band named "Master P", then successfully complete the game. Welcome To The Jungle: Get a "5 Star" rank on all difficulties for all songs.

From http://www.cheatcc.com/ds/guitarheroontourcheatscodes.html. Can anyone get this info from a better source?--Kamikaze14 (talk) 02:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The only one confirmed by reliable sources is the Freezepop one. The other ones feel like wishlist additions, and particularly given the size restraints that VV has stated about this game, I can't see how those other four songs are on there. --M ASEM  03:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Orginazational Concern
I believe it would be much better if the songs in the table were listed in order of Tiering instead of alphabetical order(I know the tiers are on the side but it's much user friendly this way). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.13.39.49 (talk) 21:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The consensus previously (and in simliar articles) is that to an outside observer, a soundtrack such as this is more appropriate viewed in alphabetic order (if you want to see if a specific song is available in game). Tiering is somewhat game-guidish.  Frankly I prefer the Tiered structure for something like GH, since the songs only have ONE tier (vs. RB which has 5 different tiers).  A movie soundtrack disc is listed in track order, and this is not only a soundtrack, but a setlist (the songs are in the specific order for a reason. But I think this format works with a bit of tweaking with font sizes and foot notes. -- TRTX T / C 13:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There's now the problem that there are two different track lists - one for English countries, one for the rest of Europe, which means having a default sort by tier is going to be a problem. Thus keeping it alphabetical by track name to start makes more sense. --M ASEM  18:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If there are different set lists, we should probably split the article and the setlist like we've done for other GH games (as well as Rock Band). -- TRTX T / C 18:22, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Unbalanced Reception section
I can't help but feel that the Reception section of the article focuses far too much on the negative points of the reviews and not on the positive, which is odd since a lot of the review scores mentioned are positive. Should it be made to be more balanced? NFreak007 (talk) 14:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've tried to find what positive points there are to balance it out, but all the reviews pretty much blast negative points, so its hard to enumerate the positive ones. --M ASEM 14:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, IGN gave it a nine, I can't imagine it'd be hard to find positive comments from them. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The review is rather fluffy - not necessarily implying anything but they cite same problems other reviews have with the game, but give those a pass. I have tried to pull more positive spin from that review but it's really boil down to "it's a good DS version of the game" and hard to cite anything more specific than that. --M ASEM  22:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * IGN gave it a nine, but I've seen scores of 6 and 7 elsewhere. Isn't there a policy regarding undue weight? We can't give half of the "reception" article to one review out of many. -- TRTX T / C 01:00, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!
I'd like to apologize; I've been removing the European tracks from the track list. I did not know they were included on the European version of the game. Sincerely, Thrashmeister [ U | T | C ] 18:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

GH3 Songs
The article says that seven of the songs are "pulled from" Guitar Hero 3, but GH3 had cover versions of "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" and "Pride and Joy" while On Tour has masters. I make no claim about what the right phrasing is, but "pulled from Guitar Hero 3" isn't accurate. 24.195.193.133 (talk) 03:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Wriststrap?
In one part of the article, it says that there is a wrist strap, but from what i've seen, it doesnt go on the wrist, but rather on the knuckles. Should we change it to just say "strap" or "Harness"? 72.138.255.173 (talk) 20:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Images
I'm not the foremost authority on image quality, but the images included in the current article are not very impressive. Could someone please look into improving them? -Kanogul (talk) 13:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Dutch release
I own the Dutch version of the game (meaning the manual and box are Dutch) and the tracklist is not the European, but rather the UK version. Is this worth mentioning? Jawsper (talk) 08:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Merging of the On Tour titles
Now that On Tour: Modern Hits has been revealed (and stated from its press release to be functionally similar to the previous games) I would like to propose a reorganization of the On Tour titles to make better articles.

Specifically, all three games excluding their soundtracks should be covered in one article, "Guitar Hero games for the Nintendo DS", and all the soundtracks combined to a single list article "List of songs in the Guitar Hero games for the Nintendo DS". Because the gameplay is similar, there's little development information for the second two games that's not already in the first, and what there is can be easily added. There would be one common gameplay section, with the various additions in the last two games included. The reception section would be treated like three seperate ones.

This also is beneficial to the soundtrack since all three games can now share music across each other, thus it makes sense to have it in one place.

This will wreck havoc with what we have as GAs and the like, but I've checked on the Featured Topic and if we opt this way, we'll work something out. --M ASEM (t) 21:32, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with this merge. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I think they should each get their own article. Cuz if we start merging these ones whats keeping us from doing the same to the console GHs or RB? It'll eventually spread to other game franchises also.--67.34.181.210 (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't worry about that too much. Each of the other GH games has a wealth of development information about the progress from one game to the next. Here, we only have a couple statements with VV to establishes the differences, after the development of the first game. Since all games (unlike the other GH games) share a common base, combining them can't hurt and will have a more comprehensive effect. --M ASEM  (t) 23:44, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * On top of all this, the two latter On Tour titles feel much like expansions rather than original titles. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

i think that there should be an on tour(series) page and the seperate pages too. it would be like the main series.they all share the on tour name —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.184.146 (talk) 03:16, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem with that is it would only result in there being three articles that are too small. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 03:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * what if we kept the modern hits page on the series page till we get more info and then we make the other two longer. do you think maybe thats possible NTC TNT (talk) 18:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There's really no more info to make the other pages longer. --M ASEM (t) 18:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Here is my attempt to merge the games pages into a series page. Haven't done anything yet with the song lists. --M ASEM (t) 18:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * looks good. id say put links to the indevidule song lists until you make the full list.  i say make it permantite.NTC TNT (talk) 16:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Guitar Hero Modern Hits info...
Partial setlist. Thanks to Destructoid. -- TRTX T / C 18:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)