Talk:Guitar Queer-O

Charles Kincaid
Charles Kincaid might be a reference to Reuben Kincaid, the fictional manager from The Partridge Family.

heroine hero trivia
Maybe its too obvious, but chasing the dragon is slang for smoking heroin (compared to injecting it intravenously). Allso Heroine is a female hero, so heroine hero is a pretty lame name for a game :D H.A.N.D. 212.17.87.133 (talk) 14:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

It doesnt seem obvious to me, so I would vote for inclusion. - Redmess (talk) 14:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The song while Stan is 'driving'
While Stan is playing the driving game there's a song playing (before Kansas) that's obviously sung by Trey Parker. I can't really tell but it sounds a lot like the song that plays in the episode 'Spontaneous Combustion' while Randy, Stan and Kyle are trying to solve the global warming problem. Does anyone else think so? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.44.1.200 (talk) 00:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Trivia/Cultural References
I put in the part about the KILE sign infront of the bowling alley. I first thought it was a mistake, then realized his first name was mispelled too. I think with that many spelling errors, it might of been intentional. So I put it in the trivia section and not the mistakrs or goofs sections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tydamann (talk • contribs) 00:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Can we please get this right, if you remove something, please give a VALID reason. Some of the stuff that has been added is relevent, but some people believe it is not. These should be discussed on this page. Jay794 01:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Are the hands in Heroin Hero a reference to the original DooM games? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.202.224 (talk) 04:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a reference to every first-person shooter ever. Professor Chaos 01:15, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The manager in this episode, Charles Kincaid, is a direct reference to the band's manager in "The Partridge Family", Reuben Kincaid, played by Dave Madden. Both characters have the orange-blonde hair, same hair parting, turtleneck sweater, and 70's leisure suite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.133.139.165 (talk) 15:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Gather and Discuss Trivia
Before posting please. --68.209.227.3 03:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that. When Thad quits, he starts saying "I quit" in a sing-song voice and snapping his fingers as he leaves the recording studio. It's lifted directly from That Thing You Do. Johnathan Schaech's character quits The Wonders (the band in the movie) in an identical fashion. 24.250.75.23 03:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Work the trivia into the synopsis! Calling it "Cultural References" or "Pop-Culture References" or whatever doesn't make it not a trivia section! Professor Chaos 04:36, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

isnt thad the kid from smug alert —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.109.174 (talk) 20:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Guitar Hero II for Xbox 360 and songs mentioned/heard
Just want to start a list of information I obtained regarding Guitar Hero from this episode.

First off, the game used in the episode is the Xbox 360 re-release of Guitar Hero II

Songs heard and/or mentioned in the episode:
 * "Carry on Wayward Son" – Kansas
 * "I Wanna Be Sedated" – The Ramones (Xbox 360 downloadable track from Guitar Hero Track Pack 4)
 * "John the Fisherman" – Primus (master track)
 * "Jordan" – Buckethead (master track - bonus song)
 * "Surrender" – Cheap Trick
 * "Woman" – Wolfmother
 * Cherry Pie - Warrant —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.254.154 (talk) 04:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Every Rose Has It's Thorn - Poison —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.254.154 (talk) 04:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

See also: List of songs in Guitar Hero II

Please use this as a guide when editing the article. Thanks. lightsup55 03:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Just remember another song. lightsup55 03:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

When I heard "Pretty Vacant" by the Sex Pistols, it didn't sound like John Lydon's familiar vocals? It's not just me, right? And if not, can anyone explain? --Bacteria 04:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Altough "Every Rose Has It's Thorn" by Poison may have been mentioned or played during the episode, it is NOT in Guitar Hero II. lightsup55 06:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

"Cult of Personality" - Living Colour featured in Guitar Hero III (I'm pretty sure I heard it during "Rehearsal" part)

OK, it sounds more like Warrant's Cherry Pie

Tastes like lead 19:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Trivial Trivia
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 * On the screen the notes were not the correct notes in the actual game. The screen frequently showed long yellow notes with no space in between the back to back notes.
 * When Thad is playing John the Fisherman acoustically he begins with a solo type passage constantly changing which frets his fingers are on when in reality the song starts out with many chords that are often repeated.''
 * Out of the songs that appear in this episode, only "Pretty Vacant", "Every Rose Has Its Thorn" and "I Remember You" never made it into any Guitar Hero game. Instead, the songs featured in the series by the respective bands are Sex Pistols' "Anarchy in the U.K.", Poison's "Talk Dirty to Me" (both from Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock) and "Nothin' But a Good Time", and Skid Row's "18 and Life" (both from Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s).

I really doubt even the biggest guitar hero obsessed loser would make sure the notes on the screen match perfectly with that song. On second thoght, they probably would, and with that sudden realization, I have been robbed of anything that was left of my will to live.

Regardless, keeping these would be pointless. What's next?


 * Some argue that in actual guitar hero, humans play, but in the episode, two cardboard cutouts that represent humans do so.

70.112.249.114 14:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

remove the errors that arn't errors
the episode doesn't assume the info in the show is exactly accurate in real life, it is only for plot purposes. so those arn't errors. --Joeblack982 15:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Parody?
It seems like a parody of a specific movie but I have no idea which one...(Those scenes with Kyle playing in some crappy bar etc. seem like a specific parody)Can you think of anything?

Only Poolhall Junkies, but that's about hustling pool tables. In the IMDB SouthPark forums it was mentioned to be a possible parody of the movie Rock Star (2001) with that bar scene being surrounded by a crowd when Stan walks in. --89.60.165.58 21:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.65.33 (talk) 21:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

The episode parodies almost every movie about the rise and fall of a band ever made, trying to say it resembles only one or two is laughable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.146.62.185 (talk) 22:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly... watch VH1 for a week and you will see this story a dozen times. Incidentially, am I the only one who found this to be the most emotional episode since Kenny Dies? Lukesed 03:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure about that. It seems like a specific movie, down to the line when Kyle said he wasn't a charity case yet. I know I heard that from somewhere before, but I can't put my finger on it...  Jumping  cheese  23:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * One word: "Rocky." 69.249.83.96 02:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I think that some of the cultural references in this article are a little far fetched. Just because there is a tiny similarity doesn't meant that that is what the creators were referencing.--Cartman005 01:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Have you seen the movie Brain Candy by The Kids in the Hall? It seems like the executive was speaking like the executive in that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.27.82 (talk) 17:27, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I believe the part where Stan can't play due to spending the past three days on heroin hero is a reference to Sid Vicious and his loss of ability to perform while touring with the Sex Pistols due to his abuse of drugs, the fact that he was trying to play Sex Pistols song makes the link a bit more tangible, although the scene could be generic enough to refer to any rock star who has lost it on drugs 81.110.27.5 01:06, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's a reference to every star ever who hasn't performed well because of drugs. Lots of bands have a famous performance where it sucked because the main guy was too high to remember the music or whatever. Professor Chaos 01:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Sid Vicious coudn't play any songs even when he was clean. 90.208.96.100 (talk) 01:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

That Thing You Do! and other movie references
What other referenced are there to this movie? Thad does Jimmy's whole "I quit" thing, and is even snapping his fingers. The manager brings in Thad and Stan wants to see how good he is and he shows off, a lot like the bass player for the movie. Anyone want to do a write-up for it and point out any other references?

Then, we have the Spinal Tap reference for when Nigel Tufnel wants to reunite with St. Hubbins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.12.8 (talk) 08:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I really think it's more a general parody of all the "band makes big, tanks and learns a lesson" type movies. The Thad quitting is obvious, but I think the replacement bass comparison is a little too vague. 64.238.250.186 18:19, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * That is just filler. The entire episode revolved around the last few seconds at the end, "you are fags!"  The episode was knocking the game, how this type of entertainment is turning the next generation of children into useless spoiled zombies without a single skill to enable them to survive outside of the womb.  South Park is a comedy show, and comedy is about pleasure; the ending, "you are fags" is what ignited the pleasure centers of the brain, and that is all the show was about; buildup then release.98.165.11.154 (talk) 22:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess it is just a pretty big coincidence that there is already one TTYD reference. Another one that is almost word for word would surely be too much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.12.8 (talk) 21:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure is. What they do on this show, in case you're new to it, is point out cliches. It's funny because movie genres tend to rethread the same path. Now yes, they also recreate movie moments scene for scene but the sum of its parts is the SP crew pointing out cliches and having fun with them. Utils (talk) 02:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Glasseater - I Remember You
Where is it in "Guitar Queer-o"? Fleutist 15:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * And where's Sweet Child O' Mine? Fleutist 15:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I Remember You is during the bar scene iirc. By the way, it is not by Glasseater. Lukesed 20:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Any Response/Reaction?
From game sales, producers' reactions, popularity? Johndoe789 16:48, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

"Last week's episode, "Guitar Queer-O," drew 4.0 million total viewers (P2+) and was the most watched telecast of the year on COMEDY CENTRAL, as well as the most watched program in all of television for Wednesday night among M18-24 and M18-34 and the most watched program on cable among P18-49. M18-24 led viewing with a tremendous 7.1 rating / 22 share. For the season, "South Park" is averaging 3.8 million total viewers (P2+), the series' best performance since 2004." - Comedy Central press release.

Pretty notable...--Swellman 00:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've added this to the article.--Swellman 17:30, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Guitar Hero II or III?
I'm almost positive that the game in the episode was Guitar Hero II, but people keep changing it back and forth. I think they're just confused since III just came out. If we can clarify it here, maybe we can keep it solid in the article, and hopefully no one is retarded enough to change it without checking first in this thread. Professor Chaos 06:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never played Guitar Hero, but from what I've heard, the game footage isn't from any of the GH games; it was animated by the south park crew. That's what I've been hearing anyway. If you really want to find out, ask your question in the SPS FAQ.--Swellman 16:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

It's been corrected in the article. Throughout the episode they are generic, only saying "Guitar Hero," not specifying what edition other than that it's for X-Box. Professor Chaos 21:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

But it is II, because Eddie Knox only appears in II. He's absent in I, '80s, and III. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.173.36 (talk) 18:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Most of the songs are from Guitar Hero II.--Stu42 (talk) 20:26, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

on top of that, it mentions that activision, the creators of the guitar hero series, were questioned. However, they were not the creators, they bought the series and created guitar hero 3. they were the owners at the time of GH3's release, which was previously a partnership of redoctane and harmonix (who moved over to make rock band). so i feel that is incorrect, and activision should be called the creators of gh3, not the entire series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.115.236.120 (talk) 13:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

References to Previous episodes
Isn't Thad Jarvis one of the kids from Smug Alert!? JakerPenguin 21:48, 10 November 2007
 * You mean the family in San F.? I recalled they are called Peter Thompson, Nancy Jarvis and Brain Thompson Jarvis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johndoe789 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Plot parody
The article currently says: "The title and plot parody the video game Guitar Hero". I would say that the plot parodies a certain kind of Hollywood movies, but I'm not quite sure what to call that kind of Hollywood clichée plot so as to put it into the article. Any suggestions? --Kvaks 01:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect Information
It is currently the second highest rated episode in the entire series.[3][4] -Neither link supports the statement, so I have removed this.
 * Yes, they do. This states that Imaginationland Episode III was the highest rated episode since Cartman's Mom is Still a Dirty Slut, which still remains the highest rated episode of all time. It states that the episode drew in 3.9 million viewers. This states that Guitar Queer-o drew in 4.0 million viewers, meaning that this episode broke the previous episode's record and now holds second place for highest rated episode.--Swellman (talk) 15:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

South Park drew 8.something million viewers for Terrance and Phillip in Not Without My Anus, and around 5 Million watched the Season One finale. How about a reference? Until you come up with one, these press releases confirm it to be true.--Swellman (talk) 23:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Heroin Hero game
Is the mention of the fan-made heroin hero game really notable? It just seems as a way for somebody to advertise a flash game they've created. See WP:LINKSPAM--Swellman (talk) 21:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with you. ≈ The Haunted Angel  Review Me! 21:49, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it should be mentioned. And no, it's not a way to advertise a flash game because I added it in there and I didn't create the game.

I was just browsing through the artice after watching the episode last night and I was about to come here and say the links aren't necessary. One...maybe...bu three of them? Not necessary in the slightest. -Sukecchi (talk) 16:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

It does exist and is (I believe; I never looked at the things) related. So it belongs in. There's no need to link to any specific product, as usual. I would say that there are fan-made games inspired by that episode and leave it at that. blades (talk) 16:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually Heroin Hero was made quite some time BEFORE this episode was made. bladez (talk) 10:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

parallel to South Park creators
Stan and Kyle are voiced by and are similar to Trey and Matt. I think it obvious that the duo is having some fun with exploring the nature of freindship, partnership, etc. that they themselves have, for instance with one of the two being more the creator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs) 21:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Trey and Matt have stated in multiple interviews that Stan and Kyle are supposed to represent how they were when they were children. One could say this sort of thing for any episode. Tastyduck (talk) 04:22, 8 January 2009 (UTC)