Talk:Guns and Dope Party

While recently reading obituary material regarding Robert Anton Wilson, I stumbled on the wiki article about the Guns and Dope party. This party is at best an historical footnote, but I found the article informative nonetheless.

It's a short article, appropriate considering the lifetime of the "party" itself. It'd be a pity to lose an article about this short-lived organization, and I find it distressing that an article nominated for deletion has *no* dialog in its discussion page.

Just some thoughts from a frequent wikipedia reader, not an editor.

69.129.196.12 05:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

New info: As of February 23, 2007 the Wikipedia Guns and Dope Party article has been completely updated. Rasadeva 18:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

To whomever wrote the first GADP article: I have written what I consider a more thorough and nuanced article about the party. I felt the first article was biased because in my opinion it unfairly labeled the GADP as frivolous, and in using words like "facetious" and "mocking" inserts the writers own bias about the subject matter. Also, in believing that Wilson intended that "cannabis smokers" and "pro gun righters" would actually get together rather misses the point of Wilson's intent, which I believe was less about actual party organization and more about getting not only those two groups but most especially any interested people thinking about the unfairness of what Wilson labeled "tsarism" in America. The original article was in fact inaccurate about several issues - one being that the GADP only authorized use of it's ideas and graphics to the Burning Man theme camp to one person who chose to call himself a member of the party. This may seem like a small point, but I believe my edit more clearly describes the situation. Another point that I believe is far more relevant is that in the original article a lot of labels are used. Anyone who knows Wilson's philosophy would be careful to note that labeling Wilson a libertarian would not only be inaccurate, or at best a matter for debate, but without further clarification would be misleading. Wilson believed in a lot of Libertarian ideas, of course, but I believe it is a unfair to simply label him a "cult" author and a "libertarian." His writing demonstrated a far greater open-mindedness about how one uses labels. I believe Wikipedia works best when critical comments about a subject are clearly labeled within a "dispute" heading within the article, and even then the name-calling should be described and not just thrown. Rasadeva 16:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE! Whomever is changing the GADP page. Let's talk about why you think your article is more appropriate! Rasadeva 16:18, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks to OCNative for responding. Please see my  talk page for details --Rasadeva 08:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)