Talk:Gurjar sub-castes/Archive 1

WHY?!?!?!?!
I removed some really un-wiki material from this article, but for some reason or another, it was put back. Please judge this piece carefully and see if you think it should remain:

''HI I IAM ANKUR BHADANA. BHADANA is the most populler goatra in west haryana .OUR OUNBEL PRIM MINISTER jawahar lal nehru comes to our village anangpur near surajkund faridabad he said that the gurjjars of village anangpur realy make me happy by there respect and culture. AND I PARSONALY THINK THAT THE GURJJARS ARE SO SACRATMENTED AND SO SNOBISH.''

HELLO- guys my self Choudhary Ankush Dedha from JAGATPUR 24SSA

Obviously, apart from the lousy spelling, it is both POV and offensive, so I do not see WHY it was put back! (I have deleted it now, but I hope that, before someone gets ideas about reverting my edit, they read this) --Maurice45 (talk) 18:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I am also removing the following:

Hi i am PUNEET DEDHA from village gammri which is in east delhi.

''In dedha comunity it is said to be that we have one and half of goatra among other gurjjars. we snached half of the goatra from ADHANAS because of there mischifs so that they repay the cost of their mistake.''

Dedha is also one of the famous cast in gurjar goatras.Most of them living in delhi & ncr areas.India's capital DELHI is the native land of dedha gurjar.Iam ANAND DEDHA from sabhapur village NEW DELHI.There are 23 Village of Dedha's in Delhi & 1 in Uttar pradesh.

''Dhaliya is the gujjar cast which resides in the cities of western utter pradesh like greater noida, noida and Rajasthan. Dhaliya is brother cast of Chaprana cast that's why marriages between these cast don't take

place.'' Hi,Gujjar,s Brothers I m SOOD gujjar From pakistan (FaisalAbad Punjab)Before partition I lived in Hoshiarpur India village Bhagowal,IN Faisalabad 15 villages of GUJJAR,S.My villge name is Chak no 232 G.B chaudhary Sarwar GUJJAR WALI. IN MY VILLAGE MOSTLY SOOD,MAISI,Chechi,Kasana,Bajaar,Chaar, Ghorsi are living.If any one Gujjar WANT TO CONTACT ME THEN PLZ NOTED MY EMAIL chmujahid_232@yahoo.com

--Maurice45 (talk) 18:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

ITS ARTICLE TO EMPROVE GUJJARS COMMUNITYS SELFrespect

HI MY NAME IS BHARAT CHOUDHARY I LIVE AT NEW SABHA PUR KARAWAL NAGAR CHOUDHARY STREET EDUCATIONAL MKT. THERE LIVE DEADHA IN MEZORITE THEYR COME FROM SABHA PUR .I AM ALSO DEADHA BOYS. I THINK THAT THE GUJJAR IS THE BEST HUMANITY PERSON IN THE WORLD.AND IF THEY WANT THEY DO ANYTHING WITH THE MEZORITY SO KEEP IN THOUCH WITH GUJJARS TO SAVE HIMSELF BCOUSE GUJJARS ARE THE FUTHER OF INDIA AND THEY DO WELL WITH TECHNOLOGY.SO KEEP THIS THINK OK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.12.83 (talk) 07:22, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

hi i am virender dedha i am live at sabha pur gujran delhi dedha fuond in mizority in delhi dedha is sub caste of gujjars in delhi dedha have near 24 village in delhi they have such a strong sub caste in delhi to other caste no any one caste in delhi which have mizority also dedha is finacialy strong person

Total lack of citations
Whether or not there is a wikipedia article about a list member, that member must be cited in the list article as being a member of the list. This article has no members meeting that individual requirement for citation. Cite it or lose it. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 2 AUgust 2012


 * It is time to start pruning the list. The book used as a reference at the lend is imperfect for this. We need to know inthe citation that the name stated is a member of the list by virtue of an independent citation. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

This is a rubbish page. Kindly add references or delete it causing confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.119.104.226 (talk) 12:21, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Many clans are in this section are from "Upper caste". This is crap
This whole article is biased. Without any credible references. Some gujjar guy have made this page wherein many clans mentioned in this section are from upper caste Rajputs and Bhramins. Please some one senior admin guy should either remove this page or add some credible references.


 * Can you please give some examples. - Sitush (talk) 12:17, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2014
hi i just wanted to know that why there is no name of bhadanas in the clans of gurjars

Vidhan Bhadana (talk) 10:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Statements in Wikipedia articles must be verifiable. That usually means citing a reliable source. In addition, items added to lists must be notable and the best way to ascertain notability is to link to an existing article on the subject or to create an article on that subject.


 * We have an article titled Bhadana but it is about a town, not a clan, so we'd need to create something like Bhadana (clan) and provide sufficient suitable sources in that to establish notability. The sources would need to be independent of the subject matter (eg: not a clan website, many of which are self-published by individuals and are not peer-reviewed) and there would need to be several of them. The sources would also have to discuss the clan, not merely mention it in passing. Once all that is sorted out, we could add Bhadana to this list and use one of those sources as a citation. - Sitush (talk) 12:16, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2014
42.104.15.122 (talk) 06:42, 27 August 2014 (UTC)add to ansal gotra in gurjar in wikipedia


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:22, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2014
Ghuraiya and Bastta are also a popular gotra of gurjar community.

182.68.71.110 (talk) 05:28, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2014
Mandar

203.187.240.2 (talk) 18:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:57, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2015
I have seen the List of Gurjar clans but it is not complete various clans are missed please complete the list of Gurjar clans. It is small but not too much but small..

Vipin babra (talk) 12:44, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:59, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 16 February 2015
Vipin babra (talk) 12:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Copypaste of entire article removed As it clearly states in the instructions to submit an edit request:- "Please don't copy the entire article into the request. Only copy the part you're changing. If you copy the entire article into the request, you'll break navigation on the talk page, and another editor may remove your entire request." This is not a "spot the difference competition" If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, your e-mail address is not a reliable source. - Arjayay (talk) 13:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2015
Chaudharys-3591 (talk) 09:14, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 10:05, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2015
Yashkarhana (talk) 06:30, 29 June 2015 (UTC) add karhana also to gujjar clans... im am karhana and we are also gujjar clans.. please do it as soon as possible

❌ we do not have an article on Karhana and only include clans with their own article - Arjayay (talk) 08:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2015
Karhana

103.50.7.130 (talk) 08:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as above. Cannolis (talk) 13:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2015
bhadana, babra

106.67.41.78 (talk) 11:57, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 11 December 2015
Lohia- Lohmod

2406:5600:25:13A9:F4EE:4FD3:5B0C:DFC5 (talk) 17:46, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2015
124.124.244.211 (talk) 14:13, 30 December 2015 (UTC) Baisoya is also one of the Gotra in Gurjars. They have more population in Delhi.


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Cast missing
There are many casts in gurjars that are not recognize here. Like:- Nagar,Mandhar,dedha,rampal and many others. Please research again about gurjar cast and right it. Aryan Mandhar (talk) 20:56, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
 * ❌ - it is not up to "Us" to research and right it - it is up to "You" to propose changes, citing reliable sources - Arjayay (talk) 16:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2016
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103.242.61.231 (talk) 11:29, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2016
List of all gurjar clans-

A-

Ambavta Alpial Adhana Aheer/Ahir Ajar/Bakarwal Akshawat Awana Amrana Amni Acchvan Auwaal Alkari Atala Ambak Ambawata Agnikul Aswaal Andarwar Aahaar Almeecha Andoh Aftali Andana Athwaar Atkia Aswaar Asya Ahmana Agchal Atlana Ahiwaal Anjana Amolia Anolehra Anta Aana Anandma Ayeri Asaria Antu Awaar Amta Amarwaal Athwaal Atrusi Awanti Aheewaal Arwaal Amir

B- Basoya/Baisoya/Besoya Bidhuri Bokra/Bokan Bajarh/Bajjar Badaankhail/Badaanzai in NWFP Baisla Bharwal Bhadana Bhati Banth Bhamla Bose Barkat Bagri Bhatia Banian Basista/Bosatta Bhalot Bhatria Beeten Bhanbar Bhasi Bhunchh or Bhoonchh Baharwaal Barah Babra Bajran Bokkan Bhadak Bhaleser Badiyawal Bhoken Bajaar Baanth Bania is the gujjars in kashmir in domancy Batt Batar Bala Baisoya Balasia Baalsi Baarsi Beli Bakkhan Bagwar Baswaal Bawaar Baddi Banslay Bensla Bathoya Baghela Baaru Bud Gujjar Bar Gujjar Barhela Bokar Baghaar Babar (clan) Barbara Baankar Baharoj Baanja Balot Behlot Belu Berpu Bela Bargu Bandra Bhanbla Bhemala Bhatia Bhati Bhargar Bhosan Bosan Bhent Bhulesar Bhaarvi Bhargot Bhmaber (Bhamra) Bhadana Bharoya Bhaaru Baaru Bhoya Bhumbla ( Punjab ) Bettan Barraich Bawla Birana Brora

C-

Chhawari Chaprana Chaudhri Chechi Chandna (Chandila) Chaneja Chhokar/Chokker/Chhoker Chandela Chaudhary/Choudhry/Choudhery Chouhan Chawda/Gujar Chapa Chavhan Chaman Channanay Chanchi Charlay Chohlay Chhali Chobra Chanair Chetrana Chandar Chandor Chalor Chalotia Chalok Chandel Charan Chavinda Chodda Chahadri Chaap Chanpay Chora Chandyala Chohar Chhawari Chawara Chhotkana Chhaparwaal Chhalay Chhori Chohan Chappar Chelarwal Chhawla Chandna

D-

Devdhar Daliya Dahia Dedha Dedhar Dogay Choudary Dor Dahima or Koli Dargas Daurata Dhonchak Doi Chaudhry Daak, Dok, Dock, Daunk or Dagar Dhind Dhinda Dharawata Diya Deepe Dape Dawde Dharandia Dangi Dhangar Dewda Dhama Doyla Vil.Rajpura Teh.Kheragarh Dist.Agra(U.P) Doila Dhaiya or Dhahiya

G-

Ghorsi or Gorsi Gaj Gajgahi Gaigi Gurs Garasia Goras Gori Gamti Gardi Gasetay Godwana Gosi Gidi Gehlat Gahlot Gojarwaal Goryagor Gargar Gotalwaal Gorya Gorewaha Gojar Gairr Gairathi Gohal Gonchal Gogla Goushar Gaalgal Gaathela Gaanghela Garatia Garoryar Geda Gachalia Godalia Garla Gochana Gartal Gari Gopia Goop Gararr Gola Galeria Gogi Gangoh Ghorey Ghabela Ghaakla Gill Garahwaal Gaharwal Gorhaal Gehsan Ghararr Ghanda Ghaghla Gharya Ghaagal Garewaal Gus Gungal Ghodarop Gujjral

H-

Harsana Hun Hakla Hakum Hathwal Harshal

J-

Jabarhera Jangee Jindar Jat Jatal Jatu Jagal Jangal Jangada Jabli Jatla

K-

KAANGAR Karhana Kalas Kalsiyan Khari Kapasiya Kasana kansana Kaira kiani Khatana Kheela Khokhar Khepar Kulyana Kundwana Karahna Kanwar kukaswal/kugaswal Kataria Karoly Kohli/Koli (Dayama) Kaura Khaila Kangas Kharol Kalsaan Kharra kethwal Kathwal of Birote

L-

Leva Gujar Lohia (Lohmod) Lomwar Lakra Ligree Laadi Lohmor Lumbar

M- MANDAAR Or MANDAR Mirwani Meelu Mehlu or Mahil Malkana Mehar Meed Moheelu Maitrak Miyana Moral(also called Mudail) Mothsar Motla Mahrane Malik Maal Mashkie Munan Muppets Mavi (Mawai) Mokati Mana Mundal

N-

Nekadi Nalia Nitad Noon/Nooniara Nagar/Nagadi/Nagra

P-

Parihar Peelbaar Padana Pamad Paud Phagna Poswal Posdaal Paswal/Pasval Poraswal Patel Patil Panwar Pawar Pawad Panhwar Puar Parmar Payale Phambra Phoolra Punblay Puswadia Pundir Pakhala

S-

Sangu Sasodi Sehar Shukkal Shukracharya Sirandhna Saradhana Siroh Sisodia Suthan Sooderpuriay Suddhan Shahwla Sahumajra sur Sial (tribe) Sood

Y-

Yadav of rajasthanis also gurjar

T-

Tank Tonk Tang Taak Teli Toor Theckari Thekaria Thakari Thakore Tongar Tanvar Tanwar Tomar or Tawar, Toor Tedwa

V-

Vaghela Vadher Vania Visgorus Virana Vihun Vokkan Virdee/Virdi Vidhuri

103.242.61.231 (talk) 11:37, 23 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Not done. We need a reliable source. - Sitush (talk) 11:40, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Khingar
Khingar is also a cast of  gujar Inamgujjar (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Missing many sub casts of gujjars
They are khingar, banth, chaychi. Inamgujjar (talk) 07:41, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

❌ khingar, banth, chaychi do not currently have articles, so are not eligible for inclusion, and you have not cited a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 07:50, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 November 2016
Gurjars are divided in about 84 main gotras and approx 900-1000 offshoots, Some of them are:

A

Ambate or Ambavate

Adhuna or Adhane

Awana

B

Bassai

Bais

Bainsoya

Bajard

Bhamra or Bhamde

Bharwal

Baniyane

Bergat or Barkat

Bhadana

Bhati or Bhuttee

Bhagdi or Bagri

Bhumabla

Bidarwans

Barod

Bosatte or Vashishtha

Budkana

Bulesur

Bursoc

Butar

Bysle or Bainsla or Bansal

C

Chandel

Cheche ( Derived from Yu-Chee)

Chotkune

Chumayn

Chahmaan or Chauhan

Chonda or Chawada (Chawla, Chhabra, Chopra derived from this are known as Punjabis now)

Chhavri

Chaprane

Chhokkar

D

Dayma

Dedhei

Dedhar

Desai

Dhama

Dhinde

G

Gorsee

Guhil or Gehlaut

H

Harshane or Harsana

Hathwal

Hun

J

Jagal

Jattee

Jindhur or Chindhare

Johiya

K

Kaalas

Kapasiya

Karahana

Katariya

Khari

Khepar

Khoobur

Khutana or Khatana (Khurana Derived from This are known as Punjabis now)

Koli or Kodi or Dhama (Kohali Derived from This are known as Punjabis now)

Kudahun

Kulsean

Kunaina

Kushane or Kasana (Derived from Kushans)

Kusounce

L

Laadi

Lohmod or Lohiya

Lodhey

M

Mavee (derived from Malvi or the Kings of Malwa)

Maishee

Milu

Moondun

Motle

Maisee

Muhynee

Munnan

Mulkana

Mukul

N

Nagdee or Nagar or Nangal

Noon

P

Panwar

Parmar

Parihar

Paswal

Patel or Patil (Due to British Policies, 90% of them are now Kunbis)

Peelwan

Phagune

Pilwar

Plaiser

Poorbur

Poswal or Poshwad

Pratihar

R

Ramayn

Rana

Rathee

Rexwal

Rouse or Roshe

Rowal or Raval

Rawat

S

Salumbare

Shabla

Sooradne

Solanki

Salunkhe

T

Taas

Tanwar or Tomar

Tank or Tonk

Thekri

Tongad

Touhur

V

Vidhuri or Bidhudi

Virani

Varma or Verma

Tahir Fazal Choudhary (talk) 20:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
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