Talk:Gustav Schwarzenegger

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decendant of Thomas Jefferson - WHAT? RickK 07:44, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I find the assertion that Gustav Schwarzenegger (and thus Arnold) was a descendant of Thomas Jefferson... surprising. Not because it is improbable, but because it would have received a bit of publicity lately, and it hasn't. Jefferson is a descendant of King Edward III of England, and I rather think a royal descent for Arnold might have been mentioned amid all the "immigrant made good" noise of the California governor's election. Can you give the line of descent here? -- Someone else 07:46, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)~

Gustav Schwarzenegger is mentioned in Thomas Jefferson's Family Tree (www.ishipress.com/pafg188.htm), and I think that's where this statement comes from. However, it looks like he's in there because of Arnold, whose wife Maria Shriver is presumably the Jefferson descendent. The Schwarzenegger line does not go further backward than Karl, father of Gustav. Eugene van der Pijll 09:07, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC)


 * Ah, it's probably why the claim was made (glad you removed it), but I'm not sure why he's in there: it should be for some reason other than Maria Shriver, who ALSO doesn't seem to have a Jefferson descent. But all is well here now! -- Someone else 01:05, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

To reiterate a comment I made on the AFD page, if Gustav attained the rank of master sergeant, he was in the 2nd or 3rd highest enlisted rank in the Wehrmacht. A US MSG is a NATO OR-8, which is a Stabsfeldwebel or Hauptfeldwebel in the Germany Bundeswehr. (I do not find a source saying which his rank was in German.) In fact, enlisted is wrong -- he was a non-commissioned officer, probably in command of a platoon. --Dhartung | Talk 17:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


 * You need to brush up on your military know how. NCOs ARE enlisted soldiers. They all started out as privates.  Any german/austrian who had been in the Wehrmacht for a few years would have probably advanced to become one. user:Pzg Ratzinger

Notoriety

 * "He was also the father of Hollywood star and Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger."

I would assume that the only reason he is know, and has an article on Wikipedia, is because he is Arnold Schwarzenegger's father. Being an active Nazi makes him more notbale than the parents of other celebrities, and thus perhaps deserving of his own page (as opposed to simply a brief mention of Arnold's page), but being a Nazi in and of itself is not what makes him notable, certainly no more notable, or deserving of a Wikipedia article, than numerous others who were members of the SA. The article needs to make this clear from the start, yet the first few paragraphs seem to imply otherwise - that he has this page because he was a Nazi. - Matthew238 05:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

SUGGEST DELETION OF THIS ARTICLE

I would do it myself, but I couldn't figure out the rather lengthy WIKI essay on page deletion. Reason for deletion--this guy is of no interest at all, other than as the relative of a celebrity. The argument that he is of interest because he was a Nazi doesn't hold water. He clearly joined the NSDAP only opportunistically after Austria was absorbed by Germany. He reached the equivalent rank of sergeant, big deal. He had no achievements or notoriety relating to his Party status, or indeed anything other than his famous son. As far as I can determine, this page was made only so that Arnold could then be listed in the "Descendants of Nazi Officials" page. Political enmity at work? This is the kind of thing that hurts Wikipedia. Delete now. 122.52.34.41 16:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Is an article about Gustav Schwarzenegger on Wikipedia really necessary and notable only because he is the father of Arnold? I mean, other parents of famous people are not on Wikipedia, too! I think, there must be a good reason for this! Nazi or no Nazi, whatever the case, it is irrelevant because every article on Wikipedia about a person has to fulfil certain criteria. The person has to do or achieve something outstanding or spectacular earning a rightful place in mankind's collective memory. The family background is not enough for an entry, unless the person is a member of high nobility (peer)! Therefore an article about Gustav Schwarzenegger is dispensable. Well, that's my opinion! --86.33.80.86 (talk) 05:28, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced
Some assertions are not in the stated source and appears to be some editor's attempt to prove guilt by association. I have tagged citation needed them and will remove them soon.Sjö (talk) 11:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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Curling
Last night, my dad said that Arnold Schwarzenegger’s dad Gustaf was a champion curler. Is that true? I can’t even find any evidence in this article that Gustaf ever participated in curling events. 2603:9001:2100:B480:1930:202C:E32A:F372 (talk) 20:44, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Membership of the SA
"[He]...applied to be a member of the SA in the early years of the annexation"

He apparently applied to be a member in May 42. Anschluss was March 38. The end of Anschluss was May 45. I'd've said he applied to join not in the early years, but almost exactly half way through the annexation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.18.166.19 (talk) 06:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)